10/1 (BEL): JCGC, Beldame, JHTC, Vosburgh, FlwrBwl (G1's), Kelso (G2)

Indian Charlie · #1 10-03-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gamblin4ever

I agree with him relaxing,and him getting the distance. I just don't think he is as effective at 1 1/4. He likes to run up front/close to the pace, from what I've seen in his races, and think of the probables who like to run the same way. That's what I was meaning with my post. He won't have his normal kick when the closers come a running compared to the Dirt Mile.

I am thinking of the probables, and that is why I like him so much more in the BCC. He'll get a much softer trip than he would in the mile.

It's total nonsense to think he can't get 10f.

NTamm1215 · #2 10-03-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I am thinking of the probables, and that is why I like him so much more in the BCC. He'll get a much softer trip than he would in the mile.

It's total nonsense to think he can't get 10f.

Really? You may disagree but to say that is a bit silly I think.

I'm not sure Saturday's win told us anything about Uncle Mo other than that he can be as good (if not better) as a 3YO as he was at 2 and that a mile is his perfect distance. You're taking quite a leap to believe he can go 10fs given the likelihood of a strong pace in a race with other frontrunners.

Indian Charlie · #3 10-03-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Really? You may disagree but to say that is a bit silly I think.

I'm not sure Saturday's win told us anything about Uncle Mo other than that he can be as good (if not better) as a 3YO as he was at 2 and that a mile is his perfect distance. You're taking quite a leap to believe he can go 10fs given the likelihood of a strong pace in a race with other frontrunners.

It's ridiculous to say he can't when:

1. He's never been asked to do it and...

2. He runs like he should have no problems with it.

As for the pedigree, that's ludicrous. For the first seven years or so at stud, IC got nothing but dogfood quality mares. Now that he's been getting better mares sent to him, his progeny seem to be less speed oriented.

Mo is out of an Arch mare as well, which should provide stamina.

NTamm1215 · #4 10-03-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It's ridiculous to say he can't when:

1. He's never been asked to do it and...

2. He runs like he should have no problems with it.

As for the pedigree, that's ludicrous. For the first seven years or so at stud, IC got nothing but dogfood quality mares. Now that he's been getting better mares sent to him, his progeny seem to be less speed oriented.

Mo is out of an Arch mare as well, which should provide stamina.

I don't care about his pedigree, not with this many races under his belt. You're saying he's never been asked to do it but it almost seems like you're ignoring that the worst race of his life was at 9fs. Now he's a cinch in the BC because he wired after setting soft fractions in a flat mile race on the slop?

I only hope the wagering public approaches it the same way you do, since you know I'll be the first to give you credit should he win, but he is a horrible bet at his likely odds in the BC.

TouchOfGrey · #5 10-03-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't care about his pedigree, not with this many races under his belt. You're saying he's never been asked to do it but it almost seems like you're ignoring that the worst race of his life was at 9fs.

One really can't say the distance was a problem since he was sick when he ran the Wood Memorial. I look forward to seeing what a healthy Mo can do.

MaTH716 · #6 10-03-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

One really can't say the distance was a problem since he was sick when he ran the Wood Memorial. I look forward to seeing what a healthy Mo can do.

Maybe some people don't believe that he was actually sick.

#7 10-03-2011, 04:23 PM

He had the sniffles. Better put him in the shed.

blackthroatedwind · #8 10-03-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Maybe some people don't believe that he was actually sick.

I don't think anyone that saw him doesn't believe there was something very wrong with him.

Indian Charlie · #9 10-03-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't care about his pedigree, not with this many races under his belt. You're saying he's never been asked to do it but it almost seems like you're ignoring that the worst race of his life was at 9fs. Now he's a cinch in the BC because he wired after setting soft fractions in a flat mile race on the slop?

I only hope the wagering public approaches it the same way you do, since you know I'll be the first to give you credit should he win, but he is a horrible bet at his likely odds in the BC.

I never said he's a cinch, though obviously I think he's going to be very difficult to beat.

What I have been saying is that it's ridiculous to say he can't get 10f. There is absolutely nothing real to indicate that he cannot. At least at this point.

I think a year later, it's likely he can get an extra 1.5 furlongs over the CD surface.

His race the other day means little to me.