obamas job proposal

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So Wal Mart isnt selling food if not for food stamps?

Sigh ... Sorry, refuse to have a discussion if this simplistic nonsense is your idea of debate.

8% a year? That is your standard? Why pick 1996? Why not 1986 or 1976?

Yes, 8% a year has been the historical 20th century stock market return if you invested and let it be without trying to time any markets. That's long gone. Of course, when I was young, savings accounts payed 5 1/4%.

That regular rate of return ended when Wall Street stopped being people investing capitalization in corporate American company growth and longevity, and became a gambling casino.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sigh ... Sorry, refuse to have a discussion if this simplistic nonsense is your idea of debate.



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You wrote it!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Post 45
You wrote it!

Oh for god's sake. Yes, I wrote, "Wal Mart welcomes those with food aid cards. Because otherwise they are not selling food."

Now, if you want to take that statement as I somehow think that Wal Mart only sells to people with food stamps, go ahead and be ridiculously black and white. I gave you far more credit than that.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, 8% a year has been the historical 20th century stock market return if you invested and let it be without trying to time any markets. That's long gone. Of course, when I was young, savings accounts payed 5 1/4%.

That regular rate of return ended when Wall Street stopped being people investing capitalization in corporate American company growth and longevity, and became a gambling casino.

http://www.analyzeindices.com/dow-jones-history.shtml

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.analyzeindices.com/dow-jones-history.shtml

I'll see your opinion piece on the failure of the stimulus from the Wall Street Journal, and raise you nine fiscal studies saying the opposite:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bibJ_blog.html

[Riot]

Help the economy - adopt a job creator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVwbY...layer_embedded

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'll see your opinion piece on the failure of the stimulus from the Wall Street Journal, and raise you nine fiscal studies saying the opposite:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bibJ_blog.html

Doesnt anyone read links anymore?

Uh there are 2 of your 9 that said it didnt work and 4 of the others are based on modeling (i.e. guessing)

If it worked so well why are things still so bad?

[horseofcourse]

Obama's a price is right girl...a spokesmodel for global corporate capitalism, nothing to see here. His opponent in the next election cycle will be his clone. Are people still having trouble figuring this out?? It's a clown show and nothing more.

...and like clockwork the credible, unspecified terror threat. Derp de derp derp. Baaaaaaaa

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

...and like clockwork the credible, unspecified terror threat. Derp de derp derp. Baaaaaaaa

That's our news media. Useless, superficial, already behind on that story from this morning.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Doesnt anyone read links anymore?

Uh there are 2 of your 9 that said it didnt work and 4 of the others are based on modeling (i.e. guessing)

Interesting interpretation. Much more credible to listen to an anti-Obama op-ed.

If it worked so well why are things still so bad?

It's just that simple. Right

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Interesting interpretation. Much more credible to listen to an anti-Obama op-ed.



It's just that simple. Right

So flawed studies are the way to go? The same dopes who put those studies out are cut from the forecasting cloth of the idiots Obama hired that said the stimulus would prevent unemployment from reaching 8%.

Surely you read the "op-ed" piece which detailed a study which took real data from real people (unlike forecasting which is like taking Mike Watchmakers selections as fact) and showed the flaws that are being misinterpreted in other studies?

Of course the stimulus worked. Look at how the economy is growing. Look at how unemployment has gone down. Look at how the mood of the country has brightened. Look at Obama's ratings, surely the continued slump in those numbers can't be fallout from his hugely successful stimulus package because everybody loves Obamacare so it couldnt possibly be that either. Look at all those "shovel-ready" project that were completed. Look at the consumer spending. Surely the stimulus was a home run...

[Danzig]

OBAMA: "The American Jobs Act answers the urgent need to create jobs right away."

THE FACTS: Not all of the president's major proposals are likely to yield quick job growth if adopted. One is to set up a national infrastructure bank to raise private capital for roads, rail, bridges, airports and waterways. Even supporters of such a bank doubt it could have much impact on jobs in the next two years because it takes time to set up. The idea is likely to run into opposition from some Republicans who say such a bank would give the federal government too much power. They'd rather divide money among existing state infrastructure banks.



--that doesn't sound like a very good idea. read it and the rest if you wish:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44446558/ns/politics/

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So flawed studies are the way to go?

"Flawed" simply because you say so, huh? LOL.