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Old 09-07-2011, 01:57 PM
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Besides GE(can't imagine why...), poor people, illegal immigrants and those with "excellent accountants" I would like to know who isn't paying taxes in this country?
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:02 PM
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Besides GE(can't imagine why...), poor people, illegal immigrants and those with "excellent accountants" I would like to know who isn't paying taxes in this country?
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...y/#more-116417

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Old 09-07-2011, 03:37 PM
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Based on this we certainly seem like a first world country where taxes are paid by almost everyone who ought to be paying them.
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Based on this we certainly seem like a first world country where taxes are paid by almost everyone who ought to be paying them.
Yes. Thus I find it strange that the Republican party, GOP-TV (Faux News), Heritage Foundation, etc. has been actively demonizing that 47%, those nearly all with incomes below $33,000 or so, and demanding they pay more federal income tax. While those very same people demand the wealthiest "job creators" get more tax cuts, they fight against closing tax loopholes the wealthiest use to lower their effective tax rates, and they demand decreases in capital gains taxes.

Those evil poor people! Holding back the wealthy job creators of this great country!

Makes no sense. Can't wait for the GOP debate tonight to see some of them try and justify that position.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:59 PM
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"First world countries where taxes are paid, healthcare, workplace and retirement security are provided to all, education is supported and encouraged"

So where is the problem? You agreed that those who are supposed to pay are paying.
Could it be that the money collected is not being spent as well as it could be?
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:16 PM
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"First world countries where taxes are paid, healthcare, workplace and retirement security are provided to all, education is supported and encouraged"

So where is the problem? You agreed that those who are supposed to pay are paying.
Could it be that the money collected is not being spent as well as it could be?
My tax comment was made in a completely different context. You've changed the subject. Re-read my post for what "problem" I was discussing. All the paragraphs go together.

BTW - did you read the article I referenced, or just look at the chart posted here? Read the article, too.

And no, I didn't agree that "all those who are supposed to pay are paying". Not in the least. I said, "yes", to your statement that it "... seem like a first world country where taxes are paid by almost everyone who ought to be paying them ... ". No, I do not agree with that statement. Yes, it "seems" like that, though, on the surface, doesn't it?' It is not the reality that would reflect my interpretation of who "ought" to be paying taxes.
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:47 PM
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if the releases are correct and over half the $300 billion is dedicated to extending unemployment benefits and payroll taxes this is more of another giveaway rather than a job creator.

The first $800 plus billion package failed. To propose it again shows the true purpose of this President and it has little to do with jobs and less to do with the financial condition of the country.

Less than two months ago he was crying he’d be unable to pay seniors and the military their benefits and pay despite the fact they've paid and or worked for them unless we raised the debt ceiling. Now having $1.2 trillion more he can't keep himself from throwing their money away once again all in less than a couple months. Sorry this is dead on arrival.

BTW even as a Bear fan, I'll watch the Packer pre-game show that NBC Milwaukee has chosen to air over the hot air coming out of the President.

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