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Old 08-28-2011, 11:23 PM
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Kimmel told me earlier that the Champagne (10/8/11) is likely next for Fire On Ice..
Doesn't the combination of being conditioned by John Kimmel and being sired by Unbridled's Song sentence this colt to a career of less than 10 starts with at least 2 layoffs of 6 months or more?

What color is he? If he's grey his career will almost undoubtedly be over before the Kentucky Derby.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:17 AM
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Doesn't the combination of being conditioned by John Kimmel and being sired by Unbridled's Song sentence this colt to a career of less than 10 starts with at least 2 layoffs of 6 months or more?

What color is he? If he's grey his career will almost undoubtedly be over before the Kentucky Derby.
He is in fact, grey..
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:31 AM
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SAR Travers S (G1): Stay Thirsty (Bernardini) 101 (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano)
SAR Ballerina S (G1): Hilda's Passion (Canadian Frontier) 100 (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano)
SAR King's Bishop S (G1): Caleb's Posse (Posse) 106 (D. Von Hemel/R. Maragh)
SAR Ballston Spa S (G2): Daveron-GER (Black Sam Bellamy-IRE) 100 (H. Motion/E. Castro)
SAR Victory Ride S (G3): Hot Summer (Malibu Moon) 89 (D. Fawkes/C. Velasquez)
SAR Bernard Baruch H (G2): Turallure (Wando) 103 (C. Lopresti/J. Leparoux)
SAR Easy N Dirty S: Driven by Success (Precise End) 98 (T. Pletcher/C. Velasquez)

DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation (Unusual Heat) 105 (D. Warren/P. Valenzuela)
DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor (War Front) 104 (B. Baffert/M. Garcia)
DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year (North Light-IRE) 96 (J. Sadler/V. Espinoza)
DMR Del Mar Mile H (G2): Caracortado (Cat Dreams) 97 (M. Machowsky/J. Talamo)
DMR CTT and TOC H: Private Affair-PER (Privately Held) 90 (R. Cardenas/H. Berrios)

CRC Susan's Girl S: Queen Drama (Burning Roma) 64 (D. Fawkes/D. Centeno)
CRC Affirmed S: Fort Loudon (Awesome of Course) 68 (S. Gold/L. Jurado)
CRC Catcharisingstar S: Citizen Advocate (Proud Citizen) 63 (D. Vivian /L. Jurado)
CRC Seacliff S: Midnight Serenade (Bandini) 75 (S. DiMauro/J. Alvarez)
CRC Lindsay Frolic S: Frolic's Revenge (Vindication) 75 (M. Wolfson/J. Leyva)
CRC Fasig Tipton Turf Dash S: Musical Flair (Songandaprayer) 75 (S. Santoro/J. Rios)

WO Ontario Colleen S (G3): Anne's Beauty (Artie Schiller) 87 (P. Attard/P. Husbands)
WO Play the King S (G2): Havelock (Great Notion) 93 (D. Miller/J. Bridgmohan)
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:17 AM
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Doesn't the combination of being conditioned by John Kimmel and being sired by Unbridled's Song sentence this colt to a career of less than 10 starts with at least 2 layoffs of 6 months or more?

What color is he? If he's grey his career will almost undoubtedly be over before the Kentucky Derby.
10 STARTS? The under over is 5.5 lay 125 under
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:56 AM
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CRC Susan's Girl S: Queen Drama (Burning Roma) 64 (D. Fawkes/D. Centeno)
CRC Affirmed S: Fort Loudon (Awesome of Course) 68 (S. Gold/L. Jurado)
CRC Catcharisingstar S: Citizen Advocate (Proud Citizen) 63 (D. Vivian /L. Jurado)
CRC Seacliff S: Midnight Serenade (Bandini) 75 (S. DiMauro/J. Alvarez)
CRC Lindsay Frolic S: Frolic's Revenge (Vindication) 75 (M. Wolfson/J. Leyva)
CRC Fasig Tipton Turf Dash S: Musical Flair (Songandaprayer) 75 (S. Santoro/J. Rios)


Did these horses run an obstacle course or something?
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:10 AM
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Any update on Sunday's BSF from Del Mar?
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:16 AM
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Any update on Sunday's BSF from Del Mar?
DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation 105
DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor 104
DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year 96
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Old 08-30-2011, 12:31 PM
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DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation 105......Will never see dirt
DMR Pat O'Brien S (G1): The Factor 104....Smiling Tiger had a view of his ass hole
DMR Del Mar H (G2): Celtic New Year 96...was shocked that Victor got him to rate
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:21 PM
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DMR Pacific Classic S (G1): Acclamation 105......Will never see dirt
He's run on dirt multiple times. I get the impression that the owner will be more worried about top class Euros in the Turf than anything that may go in the Classic.

If he doesn't go in the Classic he probably won't be in the BC period (he's not eligible).
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:35 AM
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10 STARTS? The under over is 5.5 lay 125 under
I'll take the over....he is long and sturdy looking with a nice way of going
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:54 AM
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I'll take the over....he is long and sturdy looking with a nice way of going
Keep going with your thoughts they can copy and paste them once he is retired for his stallion page. Didn't Kimmel have a nice horse with Gindi last year?
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Old 08-31-2011, 01:57 PM
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I don't know about no Beyers, but Uncle Mo's winning type performance has restored my faith in horse racing.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:25 PM
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The current odds on the Wynn website show Uncle Mo at 50 - 1. I'm not a fan of future bets but that looks like value to me. If they can get him back to anywhere near the horse that ran last year in the BC the big question will be 10 panels but if he just makes it to the starting gate he'll be less than 10 -1.

William Hill has Uncle Mo future posted at 8 - 1 for the BC Classics the same as Tizway. His stable mate Stay Thirsty is the shortest price at 7 - 1. They offered up one Euro, Await The Dawn (10-1), a son of Giant's Causeway out of a Dixieland Band mare owned by Coolmore, who has 5 wins in 7 starts, looks to be a 10 furlong specialist and the ATR website indicates his next propable start to be in the QEII, a one mile group 1 at Ascot on October 15.

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en...p-Classic.html
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:11 PM
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The current odds on the Wynn website show Uncle Mo at 50 - 1. I'm not a fan of future bets but that looks like value to me. If they can get him back to anywhere near the horse that ran last year in the BC the big question will be 10 panels but if he just makes it to the starting gate he'll be less than 10 -1.

William Hill has Uncle Mo future posted at 8 - 1 for the BC Classics the same as Tizway. His stable mate Stay Thirsty is the shortest price at 7 - 1. They offered up one Euro, Await The Dawn (10-1), a son of Giant's Causeway out of a Dixieland Band mare owned by Coolmore, who has 5 wins in 7 starts, looks to be a 10 furlong specialist and the ATR website indicates his next propable start to be in the QEII, a one mile group 1 at Ascot on October 15.

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en...p-Classic.html
I'm thinking for Stay Thirsty to win the BCC this year, it would need to be a walkover.
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