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Old 10-26-2006, 01:34 PM
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Wow 19million dollars how much of that is going to come out of your pocket 1-2million. Whoa id be upset to! I bet your one of those people that think just because teachers get paid with taxpayers money that you are directly their boss.
Actually I am one of those people that instead of wasting $19M on NYRA maybe we could use that money to improve education and pay teachers more.

Or does the money we use to improve education grow on trees? lol
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:41 PM
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Actually I am one of those people that instead of wasting $19M on NYRA maybe we could use that money to improve education and pay teachers more.

Or does the money we use to improve education grow on trees? lol
The budget is the budget. If it didnt go to help improve racing it would be put somewhere to plant trees in a forest, they have to spend the money or lose funding the following year. Education gets there fair share look at all the money going there from the slots. Yonkers alone will be generating 250mil a year for education.

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Old 10-26-2006, 01:45 PM
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The budget is the budget you idiot. If it didnt go to help improve racing it would be put somewhere to plant trees in a forest, they have to spend the money or lose funding the following year. Education gets there fair share look at all the money going there from the slots. Yonkers alone will be generating 250mil a year for education.
You are calling me an idiot. You know absolutely nothing about government you fool. Does the government budget $20 million in bailout funds for NYRA? LOL. What a moron. It is a non-profit you fool. The government doesn't budget money for them. You can't really be that stupid.

And it is their not there. Be careful about who you call an idiot.

Yonkers isn't NYRA either.

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Old 10-26-2006, 01:48 PM
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You are calling me an idiot. You know absolutely nothing about government you fool. Does the government budget $20 million in bailout funds for NYRA? LOL. What a moron. It is a non-profit you fool. The government doesn't budget money for them. You can't really be that stupid.

And it is their not there. Be careful about who you call an idiot.
Hey, Rev... did you ask your brother for that info?

J/K LMAO
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:52 PM
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Hey, Rev... did you ask your brother for that info?

J/K LMAO
Did you get that one out of you book of original thoughts?

I don't have a brother either. It is my friend's brother.

Don't you have to go out and raise money for the latest Republican child molester who goes telling us how moral he or she is. LOL. How about raising money for Katherine Harris' latest facelift?

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Old 10-26-2006, 02:20 PM
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Actually I am one of those people that instead of wasting $19M on NYRA maybe we could use that money to improve education and pay teachers more.

Or does the money we use to improve education grow on trees? lol
There you go Rev!! That's the ticket. Half of all the teachers in the U.S. leave the profession after 5 years. A full 50%. Either it's too difficult for them or they don't earn enough to live where they do....Not crying poverty here, just making a point. The better the salary system, the more attractive candidates you could attract to the profession and at the same time keep those productive teachers who are already there.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:43 PM
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most teachers leave because they can't hack it. it's not the salary and the hours that's for sure.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:59 PM
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most teachers leave because they can't hack it. it's not the salary and the hours that's for sure.
Oh boy! Sumitas!
That statement is one I can't agree with.
I'm with Randall on this one.
I really wish you knew how many hours outside of the classroom are spent in mandatory training, grading papers and lesson planning.
teachers deserve far more...both in respect and financially.

I sat on my hands before I typed anything on this thread ( and it's been an interesting read).
NYRA's alleged "corruption" is nothing. I'm saying NOTHING!
Do a google search of Neil Mallon Bush. Yes, he's our beloved president's brother. Yes, he paid a small fine in the 80's while the taxpayers bailed out Silverado Savings and Loan for a billion dollars. Yes, that's with a b.
He avoided jail time.
Now brother Neil has his hooks in education through his "business", Ignite!
And how is this wonderful enterprise funded?
Through daddy Bush's Crest Investments.
Ummm, corruption? Teacher's fault? Huh?
Google it. You might find more sins than nyra's.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:41 PM
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When people make the "pay teachers more" argument regarding any issue, then I know such people have very weak opinions.
My argument is that the government isn't here to bailout non-profits to the tune of millions of dollars every single year. You seem to think it is.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:42 PM
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The Keeneland numbers are up around 9-10%. All you need to do is look at this year vs last year.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:50 PM
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No.

(Consider that our federal government has bailed out private businesses, too.)

I dislike the "pay the teachers more" argument, that's all.

I'll direct my earlier post to you: do you think that Charlie is a "criminal" or a "crook?" These words have been thrown around far too loosely in this thread.
Fine. They aren't corrupt, just incompetent. Who cares either way. They are losing millions every single year.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:55 PM
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Fine. They aren't corrupt, just incompetent. Who cares either way. They are losing millions every single year.
You throw around slanderous words constantly and when proven wrong on one you move to another with a " who cares either way "?

You have been PROVEN wrong on numerous occasions in this thread. But you certainly don't care " either way ", those options being accurate or inaccurate, so why shouldn't you simply spew more inaccuracies. This is the internet after all.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:58 PM
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You throw around slanderous words constantly and when proven wrong on one you move to another with a " who cares either way "?

You have been PROVEN wrong on numerous occasions in this thread. But you certainly don't care " either way ", those options being accurate or inaccurate, so why shouldn't you simply spew more inaccuracies. This is the internet after all.
No. I still say they are corrupt. Once corrupt always corrupt. It is just a matter of time before it comes out. The fact that they continue to just lose money by the millions gives plenty of strength to my belief. However, if you think otherwise, than explain to me how they lose millions every single year.

Please, explain this to me. I have yet to hear how a non-profit can just lose tens of millions every single year.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:02 PM
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Once corrupt always corrupt.

Interesting thought. So, I guess you feel that if you go to work for NYRA you automatically become corrupt? I know the answer, you have given it, which I find interesting. By the same token, if the Knicks say have an incompetent coach, and fire him, the next person will also be incompetent, as it is the position that performs at a certain level, according to you, and not the person inhabiting it.

You really are clueless. Thanks for the uplifting thoughts. Listening to you would make anyone feel better about themself.
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Old 10-26-2006, 04:01 PM
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Once corrupt always corrupt.

Interesting thought. So, I guess you feel that if you go to work for NYRA you automatically become corrupt? I know the answer, you have given it, which I find interesting. By the same token, if the Knicks say have an incompetent coach, and fire him, the next person will also be incompetent, as it is the position that performs at a certain level, according to you, and not the person inhabiting it.

You really are clueless. Thanks for the uplifting thoughts. Listening to you would make anyone feel better about themself.
as far as the Knicks coach analogy... yeah, at some point the answer is yes. you keep hiring failures, guess what, you are a failure yourself. In the real business world, you're out.
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