Brilliant miler Canford Cliffs retired to stud

Calzone Lord · #1 08-04-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Mr. Calzone, I have a few questions for you. They run a 10f race at Churchill and one horse wins by a nose in 1:58 3/5 with the third horse 20 lengths back. Both horses ran great races right? Well, let's say that one of them would have broken down at the eighth pole and the other went off to win by himself in that same 1:58 3/5. Is his effort somehow less because the other horse got hurt?

No. It's not.

However, in this hypothetical example - you have no mention of a lot of different factors that impact how you view a performance.

The rest of your question has me dizzy and confused.

I can rattle off a dozen or more horses from Europe - only going back to Giant's Causeway and Dubai Millenium's time - who have beastly forms like Frankel.

Frankel and CC are not our equivlant of an Easy Goer/Sunday Silence or Affirmed/Alydar.

King Glorious · #2 08-04-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

No. It's not.

However, in this hypothetical example - you have no mention of a lot of different factors that impact how you view a performance.

The rest of your question has me dizzy and confused.

I can rattle off a dozen or more horses from Europe - only going back to Giant's Causeway and Dubai Millenium's time - who have beastly forms like Frankel.

Frankel and CC are not our equivlant of an Easy Goer/Sunday Silence or Affirmed/Alydar.

The rest of the post was just rambling in trying to give examples of how people use perceptions to try and change realities. Affirmed was what he was whether or not Alydar was there. Same with Easy Goer. Same with Frankel. Some on here are trying to use the injury to Canford Cliffs to say that was the reason that Frankel won as clear as he did (which is true) and that if he hadn't been injured and the finish had been closer, people wouldn't be making proclamations that Frankel is one of the best ever (also true). My belief is that whatever Canford Cliffs did or didn't do is irrelevant. My opinion of Frankel is based only on what he does.