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08-03-2011, 06:59 PM
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So I posted a chart about job growth. Job growth tanked after the massive Bush tax cut givaways of 2001 and 2003. Oh, but it should have grown! Giving massive tax cuts to the "job creators" makes jobs appear! At least according to the Republican economic platform. Except it's been proven that it does not. How many times did Reagan have to raise taxes?
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08-03-2011, 07:34 PM
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 Yea reduce the military budget some more and for God's sake, free paps smears for all, finally!
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08-03-2011, 07:38 PM
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Secondly, what the holy eff does that have to do with tax cuts and job growth? Go have another drink.
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08-03-2011, 08:22 PM
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Tomorrow is Miller night.
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08-03-2011, 08:35 PM
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Seriously?  
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08-03-2011, 09:08 PM
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but since they did nothing, it makes one wonder why the next prez continued the cuts. or maybe not!
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08-03-2011, 09:23 PM
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since this thread deals with the deficit, i thought it was a good place to put this...now, my husband and i live out in the country, so we have satellite internet. right now, with the intense heat, we lose signal in the afternoons. hubby is fed up, went to the hughes site, and look what's on there:
Exclusive savings for eligible customers You may be eligible for substantial savings with the help of the Recovery Act program. In an effort to make high-speed Internet available to millions of Americans who don't have access, the Federal Government has made it possible for eligible households that qualify to get satellite Internet at a significantly reduced price. This limited-time opportunity is made possible with the direct assistance of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA). Find out if your address is eligible to benefit from the Recovery Act program. so...we're broke, but our taxpayer dollars are going towards high speed internet...unbelievable. wonder what james madison would say about that!
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08-04-2011, 01:13 AM
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Some of us want America to step into the 21st century. Some of us are sick to death of America dying, and the effing GOP and idiot blue dogs trying to kill off the barely-breathing carcass remaining. Banks and the wealthy are hoarding 1.4 trillion dollars out of the economy. We are a terribly wealthy nation. Yet only the top few have all the money. And they are not spending it on anything, let alone "job creation". Wake up and look at this country we love with objective eyes. The end of the Monopoly game is at hand, and only 1 or 2 people have all the money, all the hotels, and all the railroads - and they aren't hiring, thanks. Our Congress - so proud to just cut spending! - just laid off thousands of people, out of political spite! - and have already spent $250 million in uncollected American income in another partisan hostage crisis to save 12.6 million and coddle Delta Airlines lobbyists. Why isn't every single American burning up the phone lines and marching on Washington over that? Telling Congress that they are our employees, and we say to get their damn asses back in Washington to at least sign a 30-day holdover so those thousands of American can work until they stop their petty squabbling over giving Delta lobbyists their desires? We stop spending - for gods sakes, the idiots of both parties in Washington just decided that was what we needed NOW? - and we will be in a Great Depression for another 10-15 years. Good lord, what the hell happened to Hoover? He started to budget cut, and economic disaster. Hooverville. What happened to FDR? The economy started to turn around, he started to budget cut, and bam, we were screwed for a decade, only saved by a World War. It is 1937 all over again, and the fat, uneducated, unworldly, backwards haters of this country are calling the President of the United States a communist Muslim Kenyan socialist, one political party is actively and proudly making "his failure" their number one publicly-stated policy priority, and the media pays attention to it. While "real" America is starving and homeless in the streets. I don't want this country to "go back to 1950" Or 1850, or 1776. I want it to catch back up to the other first world countries. "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." ~Justice Louis D. Brandeis
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts Last edited by Riot : 08-04-2011 at 01:30 AM.
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08-04-2011, 01:17 AM
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We are doomed to repeat our arrogant idiocy of our recent past financial disasters. Un-effing-believable.
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08-04-2011, 01:54 AM
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and as for your lengthy post just above this one, yes, our infrastructure needs help. what that has to do with tax payer dollars going to provide low income homes with high speed internet i don't know. i thought that was why libraries put all those computers in with internet that we're paying for? if folks are low income, exactly how are they supposed to access the high speed internet? i guess we buy the computers too, then people in more households can get on facebook and watch youtube..we don't have enough of that already. that'll certainly help get us back on the road to prosperity.
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08-04-2011, 02:33 AM
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this is from an article i just read about future spending deals:
The $1.2 trillion in automatically triggered budget cuts don't take effect until January 2013. That is exactly when broad tax cuts worth trillions of dollars, enacted under President George W. Bush, expire. Those two events could push lawmakers to strike a deal that marries spending reductions with the renewal of some of those tax cuts. A complete deadlock that leaves the spending cuts in place and fails to renew Bush's tax cuts would save the government huge sums. ...here's hoping they let the tax cuts expire, as they should have the last time they came up. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44008921/ns/politics/ having tax cuts while waging two wars was a huge mistake...you can't spend more while taking in less-as we can see. an exploding deficit doesn't help the economy. and we're continuing to spend on those, with our govt continuing the tax cuts.
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08-04-2011, 01:35 PM
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 . But yes, unlike you, I think there is a vast difference between the goals and methods of the two major political parties in the country. They have never been further polarized and apart. But where the worse the far right can do is bring down the country irrepairably (IMO) with dangerous, proven-unworkable fiscal policy and direct attacks on the poor, old, and have-nots; the worse the far left could do to me would be give me universal health care. Yes, I agree many politicians from both sides are simply corporate lobbyist-owned whores. But there are good politicians in Washington, trying to do the right thing. Quote:
It's about the only way to find a job nowadays. We are a world community and economy, no longer separate countries who can keep their borders closed and their states separate from all other interaction. And that connection is essential. That type of connection is what just enabled the Arab Spring. Face it - America has fallen far behind other first world countries in most objective measurements of those things that build a quality life, and happiness. The rest of the world looks at us and thinks we are crazy. They wonder why we have destroyed our greatness. And the GOP has become so far right and polarized, compared to where they have been throughout my lifetime, that they now are just a shell company shilling for the wealthy. They have lost all humanity and social consciousness (health care and good social programs have been Republican goals for much of my lifetime) My politics haven't changed - the GOP is now irrelevant and blatently counterproductive to any progress and growth of this country at all, and I'm left with trying to work with what's left. Part of the Democratic party has moved so far right to embrace many of my political views. BTW, even our Democratic party views is considered "far right" or "very conservative" in many other first world countries. In the late 1940's and 1950's, our federal policies created a great, upwardly mobile middle class. That - enabled consumerism - is what grows a country and creates jobs. And it did. We boomed. We have spent the past 40 years, however, destroying those policies that created and enable the middle class, thus our middle class is now practically gone - our incomes haven't moved upwards in decades. The top 1% hold all the money. There is nobody left to be a consumer and grow the economy. Thus we are imploding. It's as simple as that. In the Monopoly game, when one person has all the wealth, the game is over. That's where we are in America. Should the holder of the wealth give money away to others, to keep the game in play? No, of course not. But the game should be set up to allow everyone to play. And, if you read the real rules of Monopoly, something we all do not do, when you land on a property and can't afford to buy it, is that the property is supposed to be auctioned to the highest bidder among the other players. We don't do that, when we play Monopoly. That's like America - the rules have been changed to favor one person owning everything, rather than interactive, thriving growth among all. The GOP has spent forty years changing the rules to favor that, and the left has passively allowed them to do it. Now we are there. The vast wealth of this country, trillions, are in the hands of the few. The GOP attacks the left for wanting them to give away their money. No, that's false (but it's a good straw man) - the left just wants the rules to be fair. The amazing thing, in that You Tube clip I posted about wealth, is that out of the top 400 wealthiest Americans, 200 of them are "progressive" or "liberal", and want different policy. How come they can't force that? Think about it.
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The current President, albeit a failure, is the son of a mother who married an absentee, polygamist, husband. He has an accused rapist brother, who can't travel to England much more the US and a aunt he doesn't know who was living here illegally in US PAID now SS Fund credits, public housing and is now here legally and still living off US PAID now SS Fund credits, rent payments A President who was a lawyer who never tried a case. A Harvard grad with no transcripts. Meanwhile having a wife who had a 200K plus healthcare job yet never stepped foot in medical school Of course he's playing Candyland and thinks it's Monopoly. But he still was able to stumble into the game. Of course bailing out the idiot next to him, who thought railroads were the way to go, cost him the game.
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08-05-2011, 05:22 AM
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Bottom line here is a CEO has the same amount of votes as a bum that has been on welfare and has never paid a dime in taxes. So the Dems want us to get to the point where more than 50% of the country doesn't pay taxes and all these bums will vote for the Dems because they have no pride. Us hard working Republicans are going to be screwed in the future....ouch
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08-05-2011, 05:41 AM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/op...pagewanted=all
What Happened to Obama?By DREW WESTEN Published: August 6, 2011 Drew Westen is a professor of psychology at Emory University and the author of “The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation.” an excerpt: Like most Americans, at this point, I have no idea what Barack Obama — and by extension the party he leads — believes on virtually any issue. The president tells us he prefers a “balanced” approach to deficit reduction, one that weds “revenue enhancements” (a weak way of describing popular taxes on the rich and big corporations that are evading them) with “entitlement cuts” (an equally poor choice of words that implies that people who’ve worked their whole lives are looking for handouts). But the law he just signed includes only the cuts. This pattern of presenting inconsistent positions with no apparent recognition of their incoherence is another hallmark of this president’s storytelling. He announces in a speech on energy and climate change that we need to expand offshore oil drilling and coal production — two methods of obtaining fuels that contribute to the extreme weather Americans are now seeing. He supports a health care law that will use Medicaid to insure about 15 million more Americans and then endorses a budget plan that, through cuts to state budgets, will most likely decimate Medicaid and other essential programs for children, senior citizens and people who are vulnerable by virtue of disabilities or an economy that is getting weaker by the day. He gives a major speech on immigration reform after deporting a million immigrants in two years, breaking up families at a pace George W. Bush could never rival in all his years as president. THE real conundrum is why the president seems so compelled to take both sides of every issue, encouraging voters to project whatever they want on him, and hoping they won’t realize which hand is holding the rabbit. That a large section of the country views him as a socialist while many in his own party are concluding that he does not share their values speaks volumes — but not the volumes his advisers are selling: that if you make both the right and left mad, you must be doing something right.
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