Gov. Walker costs Wisconsin millions

[Antitrust32]

you wanted them to take the 810 million for the high speed train.

are you seriously coming up with this now?????

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you wanted them to take the 810 million for the high speed train.

are you seriously coming up with this now?????

I've always supported the high speed rail. The meeting where Walker needs to borrow just happened. It's in today's paper.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

I've always supported the high speed rail. The meeting where Walker needs to borrow just happened. It's in today's paper.

you said they should have used a small fraction (24mil) of the federal stimulus funds (810million) to pay for the upgrade.


I would rather a state come up with ways to fund 24 million than take 810 million from taxpayers wallets.

or in government terms:

all 50 states would pay 1.2 billion to upgrade existing trains

compared to

the government giving all 50 states 40.5 billion to build new trains.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you said they should have used a small fraction (24mil) of the federal stimulus funds (810million) to pay for the upgrade.

I didn't say that. The article said that the $24 million he's now borrowing from scratch, would have been included in the federal grant (those funds, for the purpose he needs it, were included).

I would rather a state come up with ways to fund 24 million than take 810 million from taxpayers wallets.

And now they will indeed have to do that.

Walker turned down the grant, then went and immediately tried to borrow the federal funds again. He doesn't have any real problem accepting federal grants (except during campaigns. Like Perry in Texas) He was turned down. Now the state has to pay for it.

The state will come up with a way to pay for it now. It's called taxes.

[Antitrust32]

I personally find it to be highly responsible for Walker to only ask for 24 million compared to accepting 810 million. a guy who's actually looking out for the best interest of Americans, imagine that!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

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The state will come up with a way to pay for it now. It's called taxes.

you know for sure it will be taxes?

they cant do the responsible thing... the thing that all Americans have to do... cut one thing to pay for another, more important thing?

thats the main problem today and why we are stuck in this mess, we cant seem to cut anything, but just want to steal more from the taxpayers and borrow more from China to pay for new things!!

politicians literally act like 15 year olds when it comes to spending.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you know for sure it will be taxes?.

No. It could be magic. Or voluntary donations.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. It could be magic. Or voluntary donations.

apparently you think cutting spending in one area to pay for another project is Magic. Now I know why you support Obama so much. You'd fit in perfect in "status-quo Washington".

[Antitrust32]

lol, typical crazy goverment math:

"we will save $50 this year by cutting this."

goverment:

"we will save 50 gazillion dollars over the next 100 million years by cutting this"

[dellinger63]

When you consider the population and number of travelers into/out of Chicago v. Madison the decision to wait on building a super expensive hi-speed rail system to Madtown, when technology is changing yearly, and the State wants to balance its budget not go more into hock, while going ahead with the section from Milwaukee to the IL border makes perfect sense. Again wish the President would learn a few things from WI and IL would become more self reliant.

On Wisconsin!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

and the State wants to balance its budget not go more into hock, while going ahead with the section from Milwaukee to the IL border makes perfect sense. Again wish the President would learn a few things from WI and IL would become more self reliant.

You mean like how to refuse federal grants that would have paid for the massive immediate repairs your old rail system needs, then immediately beg for the federal grant again, then when you don't get the federal grant you said you'd refuse but begged for again, borrow millions you don't have and go into hock while busting your budget by $24 million?

Do you and reality have a serious relationship, or just the rare hook up?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

You mean like how to refuse federal grants that would have paid for the massive immediate repairs your old rail system needs, then immediately beg for the federal grant again, then when you don't get the federal grant you said you'd refuse but begged for again, borrow millions you don't have and go into hock while busting your budget by $24 million?

Do you and reality have a serious relationship, or just the rare hook up?

again, it is extremely responsible to not accept 810 million when all you need is 24 million.

considering your political views, you should be mad at the guys in Washington that didnt give Walker his 24 million, not Walker for asking for it. whats up with that?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

again, it is extremely responsible to not accept 810 million when all you need is 24 million.

considering your political views, you should be mad at the guys in Washington that didnt give Walker his 24 million, not Walker for asking for it. whats up with that?

The 24 million was no longer available. It was immediately given to Illinois.

What do you think about Walker declining the federal funds, but then trying to get them back later? Would you view that as irresponsible?

Ooo - and aren't you happy Obama is FINALLY supporting overturn of DOMA? (see the new "respect for marriage act" I guess that would be RFMA)

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

The 24 million was no longer available. It was immediately given to Illinois.

What do you think about Walker declining the federal funds, but then trying to get them back later? Would you view that as irresponsible?

I find it responsible when it is a 24 : 810 ratio. if it was a 1 :1 ratio, very irresponsible.

and its a great thing that the budget is slashed to the bone. Washington should do the same thing. only what is absolutely needed should be spent. not the billions (trillions) of waste we have. its one thing if we had a surplus, but we dont (instead we have a monsterous deficit made by both parties) so we need to stop acting like we do.

[Antitrust32]

respect for marriage would make me feel better if it wasnt the Dems version of "cut, cap and whatever".

basically just words for voters with no hope of getting accomplished any time soon.