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Old 07-20-2011, 04:23 PM
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Walker is in the minority of that opinion that those federal funds for creating jobs, improving infrastructure, and doing all the upgrades and repairs your current lines need, and having additional paid for rail service wasn't worth it.

Well, until right after he turned the funds down, then he immediately petitioned to get the federal funds again.

So he apparently loves federal funds to pay for your trains. Just not when it's called what he campaigned against.

But Walker's in charge now. His opinion counts, not your previous legislature and governor that thought it was good for Wisconsin. Oh, well, Wisconsin's loss is other states' gain.

Too bad you guys now have to pay millions and millions over and above your budget for what the feds would have given you with the grant, to do your necessary repairs and upkeep on what you have now. In addition to the extra.

Guess Walkers budget is no longer balanced.
So you believe in taking $ for something that is not necessary and that will continue to cost the tax payers $, etc. after the funding runs out just because the federal government is willing to give WI some $ for to initially fund a portion of the project? Also you failed to mention that the majority of Wisconsinites did not want it.

You need to listen more to your democratic friend Steve Wynn.
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:30 PM
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So you believe in taking $ for something that is not necessary and that will continue to cost the tax payers $, etc. after the funding runs out just because the federal government is willing to give WI some $ for to initially fund a portion of the project? Also you failed to mention that the majority of Wisconsinites did not want it.
Well, the previous legislature, and the legislatures of multiple other states, reviewed the same data and saw that they would be getting upgrades to their current train system, and an additional expanded system, interconnecting their points of business with other points of business, and were very excited as they all judged it profitable for decades down the road.

Your previous legislature wanted it. Walker didn't. Gave it up.

But then, strangely, Walker immediately tried to get those funds back.

So are you angry or disappointed at Walker seeking the very federal funds he turned down, and promised not to take, or not?
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:34 PM
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Well, the previous legislature, and the legislatures of multiple other states, reviewed the same data and saw that they would be getting upgrades to their current train system, and an additional expanded system, interconnecting their points of business with other points of business, and were very excited as they all judged it profitable for decades down the road.

Your previous legislature wanted it. Walker didn't. Gave it up.

But then, strangely, Walker immediately tried to get those funds back.

So are you angry or disappointed at Walker seeking the very federal funds he turned down, and promised not to take, or not?
No one claimed it to be profitable. And if you think that the high speed rail from Madison to Milwaukee was profitable in any way there is no arguing with you. Even the democrats admitted that it would not sustain itself nor would it create any additional new business

I have no problem asking for $ that was supposed to go to an unecessary project to help do necessary repairs or upgrades to existing projects. The cost of maintaining existing projects is a lot less than the cost of a new project. You also fail to mention that governor doyle already gave the contract to a Spanish company and didn't even give a WI based company the right to bid the contract.
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:44 PM
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No one claimed it to be profitable.
Well, actually, yes, they did. After it was built, and run, the states get to keep all the profit. Kind of one of the points of, you know, doing it

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And if you think that the high speed rail from Madison to Milwaukee was profitable in any way there is no arguing with you. Even the democrats admitted that it would not sustain itself nor would it create any additional new business
Then it's a brilliant decision that you guys turned down the money! What do you think about Walker trying to get the money back?

Here's the national map of the rail corridors being built. They haven't erased Wisconsin yet. Poor Minnesota, they're screwed and left hanging after you guys pulled out.

I, on the other hand, am looking forward to being able to hop the train in Louisville and go to and from Chicago. Right now, it's just an hour plane ride on the commuter that comes and goes daily, but there's parking, car rental, getting in and out of O'Hare, etc.



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Old 07-20-2011, 04:50 PM
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Well, actually, yes, they did. After it was built, and run, the states get to keep all the profit. Kind of one of the points of, you know, doing it



Then it's a brilliant decision that you guys turned down the money! What do you think about Walker trying to get the money back?
Please show me where anyone claimed that highspeed rail in WI was profitable or even that it would be self sustainable
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:06 PM
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I'm angry that our federal government steals from the American people and then gives that money to states to build trains.

They should only be built in the private sector. that is not happening because it won't be profitable. its just like our federal government to that kind of money on something that wont be profitable. our government needs to stop wasting our hard earned dollars. but hey, they dont want to stop spending, because to stop spending means to stop buying votes. its all a con. the answer to them is "lets steal a higher percentage of money"
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:22 PM
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considering how much revenue is generated by fuel tax, im surprised that any govt. would support spending a lot of money to get less people to drive.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:14 PM
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Gov. Scott Walker says the state has reached a settlement to repay the patients’ compensation fund for $200 million plus $35 million in loss of earnings and interest.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled last year that the state had to repay the fund and pay interest on the transfer that was done under a bipartisan deal reached with then-Gov. Jim Doyle and the Legislature to help balance the state budget in 2007.
http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...er-settlement/

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