i thought cutting was the goal?

Riot · #1 07-14-2011, 09:07 PM

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I do know that. But when you hear "raise the debt limit and protect the credit rating", you still have all this debt and we need to really start paying it back, which will never happen as long as we keep borrowing.

We can pay it back, but not if we allow default. Default will send our interest rates on the debt we already have skyrocketing. Then we'll never be able to pay it back.

#2 07-15-2011, 04:55 AM

I thought hope and change was? Empty slogans 4tw.

Danzig · #3 07-15-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I thought hope and change was? Empty slogans 4tw.

yeah, anyone who bought that has to be feeling a bit jaded. more of the same old same old.

Riot · #4 07-15-2011, 12:26 PM

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yeah, anyone who bought that has to be feeling a bit jaded. more of the same old same old.

Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with Obama.

Especially compared to the Mad Max full-depression third-world wasteland we'd be living in under McCain-Palin.

clyde · #5 07-15-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with Obama.

Especially compared to the Mad Max full-depression third-world wasteland we'd be living in under McCain-Palin.

Also enjoys long finger nails screeching across a black slate board as well as sticking her nipples in industrial strength vises.

dellinger63 · #6 07-15-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with Obama.

Especially compared to the Mad Max full-depression third-world wasteland we'd be living in under McCain-Palin.

The report was written by the White House’s Council of Economic Advisors, a group of three economists who were all handpicked by Obama, and it chronicles the alleged success of the “stimulus” in adding or saving jobs. The council reports that, using “mainstream estimates of economic multipliers for the effects of fiscal stimulus” (which it describes as a “natural way to estimate the effects of” the legislation), the “stimulus” has added or saved just under 2.4 million jobs — whether private or public — at a cost (to date) of $666 billion. That’s a cost to taxpayers of $278,000 per job.

In other words, the government could simply have cut a $100,000 check to everyone whose employment was allegedly made possible by the “stimulus,” and taxpayers would have come out $427 billion ahead.

All sides agree on these incriminating numbers — and now they also appear to agree on this important point: The economy would now be generating job growth at a faster rate if the Democrats hadn’t passed the “stimulus.”

Riot · #7 07-15-2011, 12:42 PM

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The report was written by the White House’s Council of Economic Advisors, ...

As I said, I'm quite happy with Obama. Obama 2012.

dellinger63 · #8 07-15-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

As I said, I'm quite happy with Obama. Obama 2012.

Good for you. The majority of the country thankfully is not.

Antitrust32 · #9 07-15-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

As I said, I'm quite happy with Obama. .

you and maybe 4 others

Danzig · #10 07-15-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with Obama.

Especially compared to the Mad Max full-depression third-world wasteland we'd be living in under McCain-Palin.

the lesser of two evils is still evil.

Antitrust32 · #11 07-15-2011, 02:55 PM

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the lesser of two evils is still evil.

Zig, the only possible thing in the entire world that Obama can do to make Riot dislike him is put an (R) next to his name.

Riot · #12 07-15-2011, 03:09 PM

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Zig, the only possible thing in the entire world that Obama can do to make Riot dislike him is put an (R) next to his name.

LOL - yeah, your blanket statement works, if we just ignore the times I've said I've not liked something Obama has done.

Obama is pretty centrist. He's not far from an old-fashioned (R) now. The Republicans today yes, indeed, do suck compared to the Republicans of yesteryear. They have moved so far off to the right they are a mere shell of their former party.

Riot · #13 07-15-2011, 03:11 PM

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the lesser of two evils is still evil.

Then don't vote? Run yourself? Pick another candidate?

This is America. You are allowed to have your own opinion. Others are going to disagree with you. Get over it.

Danzig · #14 07-15-2011, 03:36 PM

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Then don't vote? Run yourself? Pick another candidate?

This is America. You are allowed to have your own opinion. Others are going to disagree with you. Get over it.

get over what? i always vote, i did pick another candidate. it's funny you tell me to get over it, when it's all just discussion anyway-which i understand we're all free to have, aren't we?

and no, i'm not happy with obama. i don't call him a disgrace, or the countless other disparaging titles i've seen on here. i also freely admit when he does something i agree with, such as his ideas on pell grants a few months back. i thought getting rid of dadt was a great idea-but he seems to be back-pedaling on that, which i think is a shame.
as for his spending, his ideas are right there. he seems to be doing the d.c. two step on that as well as his dadt maneuvers. but then, i've been a harsh critic of the republicans as well. i'm not quite sure what you're deal is about my statements-i think i'm pretty fair-and broad-minded on these issues.

Danzig · #15 07-15-2011, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I thought hope and change was? Empty slogans 4tw.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14...consideration/

Administration asks court to reconsider 'don't ask, don't tell' order

From Bill Mears, CNN Supreme Court Producer
July 15, 2011 -- Updated 0145 GMT (0945 HKT)

Washington (CNN) -- The Obama administration Thursday evening asked a federal appeals court in California to reconsider its order last week temporarily blocking the U.S. military from enforcing its "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays and lesbians serving in the military.
U.S. officials have been moving ahead with dismantling the policy but had objected to having the courts force the government to officially repeal it at this time.

further down:

Log Cabin Republicans slammed the administration's newest court action. "This latest maneuver by the President continues a pattern of doublespeak that all Americans should find troubling. All this does is further confuse the situation for our men and women in uniform," said R. Clarke Cooper, the group's executive director, who is also a captain in the Army Reserve.

"'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is an offense to American values that should have been gone long ago. It is shameful that a president who has taken credit for opposing the policy is taking extreme measures to keep it on life support."

dellinger63 · #16 07-15-2011, 11:24 AM

Obama made it very clear today he is not into cutting anything.

The U.S. has lost its identity of independence and equality to reliance and entitlement. The pursuit of happiness should in no way be subsidized.

lord007 · #17 07-15-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Obama made it very clear today he is not into cutting anything.

The U.S. has lost its identity of independence and equality to reliance and entitlement. The pursuit of happiness should in no way be subsidized.

How many times has he said corporate jet owners now???