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Old 07-13-2011, 03:20 AM
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DES MOINES, Iowa — Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's campaign said Tuesday that he will not sign a conservative Iowa Christian group's far-reaching pledge opposing gay marriage, making him the first Republican presidential candidate to reject it.

Two of Romney's rivals for the Republican nomination, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, have signed the The Family Leader's 14-point pledge, which calls on the candidates to denounce same-sex marriage rights, pornography, same-sex military accommodations and forms of Islamic law.
I think this was a big mistake by Bachmann, but I guess she has to be consistent with her gay-bashing closet case husband. It's not nearly the wedge issue it once was and you kind of just look like an out-of-touch, crazy dickhead when you do what Bachmann/Santorum did. Romney did what was politically smart, it's not as if Mormons have been very gay-tolerant historically.
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I think this was a big mistake by Bachmann, but I guess she has to be consistent with her gay-bashing closet case husband. It's not nearly the wedge issue it once was and you kind of just look like an out-of-touch, crazy dickhead when you do what Bachmann/Santorum did. Romney did what was politically smart, it's not as if Mormons have been very gay-tolerant historically.

i think they offended several groups with that pledge. the far beyond the pale opening statement regarding black children, and trying to suggest they were 'better off' during slavery...that has got to be one of the single most ridiculous statementsever. but then to suggest a constitutional amendment for marriage-that document isn't supposed to be altered at every whim. the feds think that marriage should be handled on a state by state basis-there's something you don't see much anymore, states handling their own business.

i'm almost hoping palin enters the race, she and bachmann could split that vote, and leave the nomination to be won by someone with more sense.


i would love to be able to ask anyone signing that pledge how they feel that move squares with being the party of 'less government'. doesn't less govt mean staying out of peoples' personal lives?

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Old 07-13-2011, 10:43 AM
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i think they offended several groups with that pledge. the far beyond the pale opening statement regarding black children, and trying to suggest they were 'better off' during slavery...that has got to be one of the single most ridiculous statementsever. but then to suggest a constitutional amendment for marriage-that document isn't supposed to be altered at every whim. the feds think that marriage should be handled on a state by state basis-there's something you don't see much anymore, states handling their own business.

i'm almost hoping palin enters the race, she and bachmann could split that vote, and leave the nomination to be won by someone with more sense.


i would love to be able to ask anyone signing that pledge how they feel that move squares with being the party of 'less government'. doesn't less govt mean staying out of peoples' personal lives?

the feds need to get rid of DOMA. its not left up to the states when the states approve gay marriage, but those couples getting married are not offered the federal benefits. DOMA seems unconstitutional to me.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:58 AM
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the feds need to get rid of DOMA. its not left up to the states when the states approve gay marriage, but those couples getting married are not offered the federal benefits. DOMA seems unconstitutional to me.
and the truly amazing part is that clinton signed it into law. not a republican, a democrat. unbelievable. perhaps he thought the courts would sort that out. that's when you know pols are chicken-when they sign something to get some folks off their back, and let the court straighten it out.
just like 150 years ago, you have northern democrats and southern democrats. the southern dems are the ones who want to protect guns (good idea) but are strictly bible belt (a bad idea).
i thought we were not a theocracy??

i still want someone to give me a logical explanation of how granting rights to all takes something away from the some who already enjoy those rights? how does granting a right change anyone else's way of life? impinge on them in any way? make life more difficult for them?
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:41 AM
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i still want someone to give me a logical explanation of how granting rights to all takes something away from the some who already enjoy those rights? how does granting a right change anyone else's way of life? impinge on them in any way? make life more difficult for them?
There is none. And a vocal few with a questionable silent majority following are to blame. They're all dying off though and going to see their maker. He'll straighten them out if he's in. Nonetheless they'll be truly silent.

My neices' and nephews' generation will never stand for it. So it's just a matter of time before it's made right.
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:04 PM
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I think this was a big mistake by Bachmann, but I guess she has to be consistent with her gay-bashing closet case husband. It's not nearly the wedge issue it once was and you kind of just look like an out-of-touch, crazy dickhead when you do what Bachmann/Santorum did. Romney did what was politically smart, it's not as if Mormons have been very gay-tolerant historically.
Glad to see someone finally added this in here, thought I would have to. That guy is super gay, like Big Gay Al from South Park. He is "reconditioning" gays to get some alone time with them, on that I would wager.
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:15 PM
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Glad to see someone finally added this in here, thought I would have to. That guy is super gay, like Big Gay Al from South Park. He is "reconditioning" gays to get some alone time with them, on that I would wager.
No kidding. If gaydar is real, Bachmann's husband moves the needle beyond "10".

Sounds like he wants to be "disciplined" by a "barbarian".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yujOclQ0P8
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No kidding. If gaydar is real, Bachmann's husband moves the needle beyond "10".

Sounds like he wants to be "disciplined" by a "barbarian".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yujOclQ0P8
they say those who are most virulently homophobic typically have homosexual tendencies.
wouldn't shock me if this guy had something 'come out' much like others in the past-such as the minister who preached against homosexuality, but was hiring male prostitutes.
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