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Old 06-25-2011, 09:03 PM
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the good news is that America is on the right path as uphill as it may be at times.
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Sun, 26 Jun 2011 - 01:09:46timeslive | Muslim leaders in Kenya have called on the government to introduce the death penalty for homosexuals and to boycott their businesses, media reports said Monday.

"Death is the only punishment prescribed by Islam for such people as done in China and Iran," the Daily Nation quoted Sheikh Mohammed Khalifa, of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya, as saying.

"We are asking Kenyans to shun businesses owned by such people and further show them open discrimination as a way of stopping the beastly act," he told reporters at an anti-homosexual workshop.

"They grossly abuse rights of others and should not be accepted among the society," he said.

The workshop was attended by more than 150 madrassa teachers and was called to address the problem of sexual abuse of boys.

Another participant at the work shop, Sheikh Majid Obeid also blamed Kenya's recent drought on "illicit activities."

"The rising cost of living and drought are due to the behaviour of these Kenyans who are not ready to change," he said.

An attempt last year by a Ugandan member of parliament to introduce the death penalty caused international outrage. The government rejected the death penalty but parts of the legislation proposed are still under discussion.

Homosexuality is illegal in most African countries. Those who show their gay orientation openly often face violence as well as discrimination.

Homosexuality is illegal in most African countries. Those who show their gay orientation openly often face violence as well as discrimination.????


How ironic is that?
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:12 PM
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Sun, 26 Jun 2011 - 01:09:46timeslive Muslim leaders in Kenya have called on the government to introduce the death penalty for homosexuals and to boycott their businesses, media reports said Monday.
Dell. Seriously - please go google:

C Street Kenya Homosexual Congressman Chris Smith

And get back to us about what you find. The irony regarding intolerance towards homosexuality in certain African countries, and it's relationship to "christian" American government officials, will astound you, I'm sure.
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:38 PM
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Dell. Seriously - please go google:

C Street Kenya Homosexual Congressman Chris Smith

And get back to us about what you find. The irony regarding intolerance towards homosexuality in certain African countries, and it's relationship to "christian" American government officials, will astound you, I'm sure.
When Chris Smith starts calling for gays to be killed then I'll put him in the same league. Until then he's just an ignorant fossil.
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:41 PM
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When Chris Smith starts calling for gays to be killed
And once again, you've proven that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:03 PM
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And once again, you've proven that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Show me!

Where did Chris Smith ever call for gays to be killed?

Ever?

Or is disagreeing with the right for gays to marry equal to murder in your mind?
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:21 AM
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Where did Chris Smith ever call for gays to be killed?

Ever?

Or is disagreeing with the right for gays to marry equal to murder in your mind?
You can't justify intolerance by pointing to greater intolerance by others, what ignorant folks in other countries do has nothing to do with what ignorant folks in this country do. Westboro homophobia isn't as "bad" as radical Muslim homophobia...obviously but so what?
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:53 AM
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You can't justify intolerance by pointing to greater intolerance by others, what ignorant folks in other countries do has nothing to do with what ignorant folks in this country do. Westboro homophobia isn't as "bad" as radical Muslim homophobia...obviously but so what?

It's the self-loathing I can't stand. A few decades ago we were a proud, great country and now after we've progressed even further we're a bunch a racists and bigots? We are arguably the most diverse, tolerant country in the world and of course we have Westboro fools but overall we're doing just fine especially considering how young a country we are.

We need to stop self-analyzing in search of guilt and get back to work. We need a President who understands private business and citizens come ahead of government programs, who puts residents of Joplin MO ahead of Taliban leaders’ bribes, and who understands we are part of the people of the world, not their provider. And considering the money that has been plundered the last 2 1/2 years the last thing we need now is to raise the debt ceiling. Time to start answering those debt collectors' calls and get straight. We've done enough and should be loved not hated for it.

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Old 06-26-2011, 12:57 PM
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Where did Chris Smith ever call for gays to be killed?
I told you what to search on. Try Uganda, homosexuals, C Street.

Look. I know you don't read newspapers, or watch news shows. You read the occasion right wing blog that gives you your superficial worldview. But sometimes ya just gotta squeeze out some objective critical thinking, and do a little serious observation on your own.
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Homosexuality is illegal in most African countries. Those who show their gay orientation openly often face violence as well as discrimination.????


How ironic is that?

i've read this post twice and still don't quite grasp what your point was in posting this. what has kenya to do with the u.s. or with new york and it's recent move forward?

and by the way, i think we should be a leader in pushing rights for all. i'm embarrassed that other countries are further along than we are regarding rights for some individuals.
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