WI Union-busting provisions added in budget committee

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You need to stop believing what you read about WI and come live it.

You need to stop ignoring what is actually happening under your nose, and pretending it doesn't exist or more scarily, that it's good for you.

It's always strange to watch people choose to self-immolate.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You need to stop ignoring what is actually happening under your nose, and pretending it doesn't exist or more scarily, that it's good for you.

It's always strange to watch people choose to self-immolate.

here you go. Emotional LMAO !!!!!

More than 100 Green Bay teachers dressed in red packed the School Board meeting room on Monday to say they feel betrayed by a recent school district directive that would require them to work longer hours and lose planning time.

The Green Bay School District recently sent a memo to teachers indicating they would be required to work an extra half-hour a day and would lose planning time to make room for staff and other meetings.

This brought teachers — many emotional — to the School Board, saying they feel betrayed that they weren't first consulted about the changes. Many said morale among Green Bay teachers is low and expressed worry these changes could be the tip of the iceberg.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

here you go. Emotional LMAO !!!!!

I have no idea why you are changing the subject to bashing teachers. The discussion wasn't about that, nowhere close, but I guess you couldn't tell that? You're off on your own mental tangent.

I guess you're bashing just because you've been told, in the past year, that you must now bash teachers, and unions. And so you obediently do it, and you "think" about these things the new, "correct" way, as a good foot soldier should

BTW, you failed to provide an author, a reference or a link, Dell.

Have you figured out, yet, why, in America:

And if each citizen is already indepedent and equal why the need to subsidize health insurance?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Have you figured out, yet, why, in America:

In America everyone should be equally accountable for their own insurnace whatever the market dictates. To force someone to pay is a sin

You know 'do not covet thy neighbors' goods'

But getting back to unions.

Cook taxpayers owe $108 billion, county Treasurer Pappas says: Greg Hinz
Posted by Ann W. at 6/21/2011 9:44 AM CDT on Chicago Business

The average Chicago household now owes a staggering $63,525 to cover local government debt, according to Cook County Treasurer Maria Pappas.

Suburbanites are deeply in the red, too, with the average household owing $32,901, according to the treasurer.

Among the biggest reasons: $25 billion in unfunded pension liability.

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[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

In America everyone should be equally accountable for their own insurnace whatever the market dictates. To force someone to pay is a sin

No, paying your taxes is not a "sin". We as a country choosing to take care of each other is not a "sin" in the least. You think that's a sin?

You want be a member of this society, that is the price of admission you choose if you want to be an American and live in this country. You don't like this country, move elsewhere. You want to stay here, you have your say like every other citizen does. You don't like something the majority, as a democratic republic, decides to do, tough luck. Get over it or move out.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, paying your taxes is not a "sin". We as a country choosing to take care of each other is not a "sin" in the least. You think that's a sin?

You want be a member of this society, that is the price of admission you choose if you want to be an American and live in this country. You don't like this country, move elsewhere. You want to stay here, you have your say like every other citizen does. You don't like something the majority, as a democratic republic, decides to do, tough luck. Get over it or move out.

No paying taxes is not a sin. America needs an Armed Forces, a Judicial System / Prison System and about the tenth of oversight committees it currently has. What the government does not need any business in is healthcare, retirement planning and unemployment. All should be handled privately on an individual basis, with private insurance either paid by the individual, employer or a combo of both.

You want someone to pay to subsidize your healthcare? Move to Canada. BTW the majority wants Obamacare repealed so I can't understand your arguement and it is no longer current? Get over it or move north.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

What the government does not need any business in is healthcare, retirement planning and unemployment. All should be handled privately on an individual basis, with private insurance either paid by the individual, employer or a combo of both.

LOL - we, the government, started those programs: retirement safety net, unemployment insurance, healthcare reform - because the private systems were woefully inadequate and American citizens were suffering

BTW the majority wants Obamacare repealed ....

Nonsense. False. The majority think the few provisions in the insurance reform were inadequate, too little, and want more - including single payer.

Watch this (the whole thing): you agree with Rand Paul, I'd imagine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYgVglm2xFY

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, paying your taxes is not a "sin". We as a country choosing to take care of each other is not a "sin" in the least. You think that's a sin?

You want be a member of this society, that is the price of admission you choose if you want to be an American and live in this country. You don't like this country, move elsewhere. You want to stay here, you have your say like every other citizen does. You don't like something the majority, as a democratic republic, decides to do, tough luck. Get over it or move out.

I dont remember choosing to "take care of each other"?

I wasn't aware that this was put to a vote of the people of America. I seem to remember it as being done by politicians.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont remember choosing to "take care of each other"?

I wasn't aware that this was put to a vote of the people of America. I seem to remember it as being done by politicians.

Oh, you don't know how that works? We elect politicians to represent us based upon what they promise to do for us? All the Republicans and Democrats that have promised us health care over the years - in addition to Social Security, Medicare, etc. ?

Yeah, that was all done against the continuing will of the majority of American people over the past decades

I'm still waiting to find out how the insurance industry will lose " 800,000+ jobs ", when they've already added an estimated 18 million to their insurance rolls, and will get up to 30 million new clients.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have no idea why you are changing the subject to bashing teachers.:

It was based on your opinion the WI Gov was somehow favoring police and not teachers and my point that teachers have failed in WI and cops deserve a star!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

It was based on your opinion the WI Gov was somehow favoring police and not teachers and my point that teachers have failed in WI and cops deserve a star!

LOL - I didn't say that at all. You'd better re-read what I said, you've completely, totally misunderstood it. I'll give you a hint: the subject was graft and corruption, and who is in whose pocket.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - I didn't say that at all. You'd better re-read what I said, you've completely, totally misunderstood it. I'll give you a hint: the subject was graft and corruption, and who is in whose pocket.

and you presume the police were left out of the bill because of graft and corruption when in fact it was because they are doing a fine job. Unlike many of the teachers, who have proven themselves, unable to teach a kid to read, over a 12 year period!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

and you presume the police were left out of the bill

No, I don't. What I said has nothing at all to do with the bill. Zero. Can't you follow the thread?