Twinspires Players Pool

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

As far as I know three guys put it together. I know one is Rich Nilsen, who has been with Bris for quite some time and the other is Bryan Wagner, a veteran tournament player who won the NHC Tour in 2010. He sat 3 seats down from me at the NHC in 2009 but I didn't talk to him. I was there on business.

Rich left Brisnet at the end of April so I am not sure if he is still involved. The people they have used are all excellent handicappers. But these are almost always bad investments as they will almost always be forced to spend more than they should to promote the gimick.

Paul

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Rich left Brisnet at the end of April so I am not sure if he is still involved. The people they have used are all excellent handicappers. But these are almost always bad investments as they will almost always be forced to spend more than they should to promote the gimick.

Paul

They are f'n clueless on ticket structure, the next time around they do it, we should have a DT contest on how to spend 100k in a P6, cause I can think of about 15 people here that have more of a clue then what they doing there with that crap.

If you are playing a 100k pick 6 ticket, do you really need the "experts" constructing the tickets. Is there really a strategy involved in this ticket? Create a ticket and hope 2 or 3 big longshots come in?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

If you are playing a 100k pick 6 ticket, do you really need the "experts" constructing the tickets. Is there really a strategy involved in this ticket? Create a ticket and hope 2 or 3 big longshots come in?

I just don't understand the 90k into ONE ticket. They do that all the time. With that type of bankroll. I probably do two 30k tickets, and 5 other 8k tickets.

90k in one ticket puts a ton of emphasis on some really bad horses.

[blackthroatedwind]

Actually, in this case, while I couldn't have hit it for $100K, I would have had a better chance with a Caveman ticket. Now, I don't believe in Caveman tickets, but in this particular Pick-6, I can't see how I could have had five As, and one C, for under $100K. And, forget about 6 As or Bs in a multi-ticket approach....for under $100K that is. The last winner would have required a virtual " all " and I don't know how I could have managed the other legs to have gotten that far....especially given the second winner. Frankly, the winner of the 5th leg would have been no problem, relatively speaking.

This sequence was impossible going in and no easier going out.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Actually, in this case, while I couldn't have hit it for $100K, I would have had a better chance with a Caveman ticket. Now, I don't believe in Caveman tickets, but in this particular Pick-6, I can't see how I could have had five As, and one C, for under $100K. And, forget about 6 As or Bs in a multi-ticket approach....for under $100K that is. The last winner would have required a virtual " all " and I don't know how I could have managed the other legs to have gotten that far....especially given the second winner. Frankly, the winner of the 5th leg would have been no problem, relatively speaking.

This sequence was impossible going in and no easier going out.

I agree with this. I had no clue on this sequence as it was extremely difficult, and quite frankly was surprised it was as "formful" as it ended up being (sans the 8th race of course.) While it's tough to do, sometimes it's better to take a pass in the pick 6 even on a monster carryover like this one when it's just not shaping up for you either in terms of the race types or finding the horses you feel comfortable leaning heavily on. For example, turf sprints are the toughest races for me and today had three of them. The times I've done well in the pick 6 were when I looked at the card the first time and said "I'm going to hit this", not "I have no clue in three of the races."

I bought 1% of my friend's $4k ticket just for a rooting interest and he didn't have much luck either.

[blackthroatedwind]

I thought the last winner was much harder than the winner of the 8th. Much harder.

Originally Posted by Scav

I just don't understand the 90k into ONE ticket. They do that all the time. With that type of bankroll. I probably do two 30k tickets, and 5 other 8k tickets.


90k in one ticket puts a ton of emphasis on some really bad horses.

I agree. The so called handicapping these experts do on a 90k ticket is pointless. They can afford to go as much as 6 horses deep in every race. With that bankroll I can skim the racing form for 5 min and construct my ticket and I am still not garaunteed to win above 100k IF I win. There is no point of having "experts" or that big bankroll.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

I agree. The so called handicapping these experts do on a 90k ticket is pointless. They can afford to go as much as 6 horses deep in every race. With that bankroll I can skim the racing form for 5 min and construct my ticket and I am still not garaunteed to win above 100k IF I win. There is no point of having "experts" or that big bankroll.

I completely disagree.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I completely disagree.

90% of your bankroll on one ticket when dealing with that kind of money is pointless, reckless and also downright wrong, having that type of bankroll is definately not pointless though.

You could probably get this info, although I'm not sure how easy it is to find, but I would be curious what woud be the largest ticket played that pool today.

I would think 90k is probably close to the top 3 tickets cost wise. Maybe I'm wrong.