6/11 (BEL): Belmont Stakes Probables/Possibles

King Glorious · #1 06-04-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

30 lengths back of whom? i dont see that happening.

Of the winner. It's not that I think he's that bad. I don't. I actually like the horse and have a lot of respect for his courage and his heart. I just think that maybe they are going to the well one too many times with him. He's run a few very hard races in a row in a relatively short time for today's horses. Maybe it's not the same situation but I'm thinking about Winning Colors. I see a situation where he's out there running on the pace again and he's just a tired horse and has nothing left and drops out and when you drop out in this race, there's a long way to go and a lot of lengths to be lost.

RolloTomasi · #2 06-04-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Of the winner. It's not that I think he's that bad. I don't. I actually like the horse and have a lot of respect for his courage and his heart. I just think that maybe they are going to the well one too many times with him. He's run a few very hard races in a row in a relatively short time for today's horses. Maybe it's not the same situation but I'm thinking about Winning Colors. I see a situation where he's out there running on the pace again and he's just a tired horse and has nothing left and drops out and when you drop out in this race, there's a long way to go and a lot of lengths to be lost.

Winning Colors, after that brutal duel with Forty Niner in the Preakness, went the opening half in the Belmont in :47 2/5 while being hounded by Risen Star.

Only by Dale Romans's warped sense of how lone speed should be utilized in a pace-deficient field will Shackleford be asked to go that fast early in this year's Belmont.

Of course, he won't have Risen Star hounding him, either, in which case he may enjoy a Bold Forbes-like trip if he's let loose early.

King Glorious · #3 06-04-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Winning Colors, after that brutal duel with Forty Niner in the Preakness, went the opening half in the Belmont in :47 2/5 while being hounded by Risen Star.

Only by Dale Romans's warped sense of how lone speed should be utilized in a pace-deficient field will Shackleford be asked to go that fast early in this year's Belmont.

Of course, he won't have Risen Star hounding him, either, in which case he may enjoy a Bold Forbes-like trip if he's let loose early.

You could be right.

Danzig · #4 06-05-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Of the winner. It's not that I think he's that bad. I don't. I actually like the horse and have a lot of respect for his courage and his heart. I just think that maybe they are going to the well one too many times with him. He's run a few very hard races in a row in a relatively short time for today's horses. Maybe it's not the same situation but I'm thinking about Winning Colors. I see a situation where he's out there running on the pace again and he's just a tired horse and has nothing left and drops out and when you drop out in this race, there's a long way to go and a lot of lengths to be lost.

i think shackleford has shown steady improvement all spring. i don't buy the bs about too many races either. the derby was 8 weeks after his last start. if he can't handle this current schedule, than i don't want anyone under an impression that this horse is a future stud star. i find that line of reasoning to be one of the biggest detriments to this sport.

and i'll bite....who's the winner?