Premium Tap to Classic?

Dunbar · #1 10-23-2006, 05:20 AM

Bloodstock Journal writes:

"Woodward S. (G1) winner PREMIUM TAP (Pleasant Tap) blazed in a bullet :59 4/5, fastest of 77 at the distance, as he gears up for the Classic. "

I thought he was doubtful for the Classic. Has anyone seen another mention of him aiming at the Classic?

--Dunbar

timmgirvan · #2 10-23-2006, 05:23 AM

Dunbar: I too thought he was doubtful, but apparently he's flying.

SniperSB23 · #3 10-23-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar

Bloodstock Journal writes:

"Woodward S. (G1) winner PREMIUM TAP (Pleasant Tap) blazed in a bullet :59 4/5, fastest of 77 at the distance, as he gears up for the Classic. "

I thought he was doubtful for the Classic. Has anyone seen another mention of him aiming at the Classic?

--Dunbar

I thought he wasn't nominated so was going to the Clark instead. Perhaps in case Bernardini pulls out they are going to have him ready for the Classic. If not, they could always run him in the Ack Ack as a Clark prep.

blackthroatedwind · #4 10-23-2006, 08:58 AM

I heard Desormeaux ( seriously ) was working him the other morning.

Between the owner and trainer....how do they allow this guy near the horse after Turfway? It's amazing.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #5 10-23-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I heard Desormeaux ( seriously ) was working him the other morning.

Between the owner and trainer....how do they allow this guy near the horse after Turfway? It's amazing.

no doubt a chantal esk ride that time..lol

blackthroatedwind · #6 10-23-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

no doubt a chantal esk ride that time..lol

Ya know, in a low point of my Saratoga experience, I was having a drink at the Wine Bar and Chantal, Mikey and Kent were seated at a table right behind me. I guess Chantal must have been giving out riding tips.

I ran before the bullets started flying.

Cajungator26 · #7 10-23-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Ya know, in a low point of my Saratoga experience, I was having a drink at the Wine Bar and Chantal, Mikey and Kent were seated at a table right behind me. I guess Chantal must have been giving out riding tips.

I ran before the bullets started flying.

I find it hilarious that c ocktail comes out as ****tail.

Dunbar · #8 10-23-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I thought he wasn't nominated so was going to the Clark instead. Perhaps in case Bernardini pulls out they are going to have him ready for the Classic. If not, they could always run him in the Ack Ack as a Clark prep.

Maybe "Bloodstock Journal" just got it wrong. I just checked and Premium Tap is still not nominated. Even more telling, Pre-Entries are due today at noon. It appears to me they would have had to have nominated Premium Tap by noon to not pay the extra $200K it will take to pre-enter him if he is not nominated.

Here's a link to info on nominating a horse to be BC-eligible:
http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?typ...ple&section=bc

Here's a link for checking if a horse has been nominated:
https://nominations.breederscup.com/...cationForm.cfm

Here's a link to some info on pre-entry fees:
http://www.ntra.com/images/06PreEntryForm.pdf

Here's where I got the deadline info for pre-entries:
http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?typ...ple&section=bc

We should know a lot more by this afternoon/evening about who is definitely bypassing the BC.

--Dunbar

Dunbar · #9 10-23-2006, 12:23 PM

Steve Haskin's column today also assumes that Premium Tap is going to the Classic:

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=21030

Haskin likes Premium Tap as a live longshot. Me, too, which is why I'm trying to confirm that he's entering.

--Dunbar

slotdirt · #10 10-23-2006, 12:58 PM

I love that stat on Jockey Club Gold Cup winners and the Classic. I mentioned that last year and was laughed at on ESPN. Obviously Bernardini and Borrego are different animals, but still, Borrego's last prep looked even more effortless against a far superior field last year than Bernardini did this year. Just throwing that out there.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #11 10-23-2006, 01:44 PM

Prado gets the mount...interesting

Dunbar · #12 10-23-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar

Steve Haskin's column today also assumes that Premium Tap is going to the Classic:

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=21030

Haskin likes Premium Tap as a live longshot. Me, too, which is why I'm trying to confirm that he's entering.

Also according to Haskin, Prado is scheduled to ride Premium Tap.

I still don't understand why Premium Tap doesn't show up as 'nominated' if he is indeed going to enter. Invasor shows up now that he was a late nomination. So does Bordonaro.

It's going to cost a whole bunch more to run him supplemented than if they'd nominate him.

--Dunbar

blackthroatedwind · #13 10-23-2006, 01:49 PM

Premium Tap has a chance in the Classic?

Not likely. Haven't seen the field but it's hard to think off-hand of any horse with less of a chance. Hell, if Ouiji Board ran she would have a better chance of winning. Not that she rates to finish ahead of him but at least she's an unknown quantity. Premium Tap has ZERO chance.

pmayjr · #14 10-23-2006, 02:12 PM

Look, whteher it was Desormeaux's fault or not, Premium Tap had a big closing kick (against a weak field I know...), so I'd try him oin the Clasic. It's not out of the question that he could run with these guys. I'd take Desormeaux off of him for sho though! But I hope he runs in the Classic. He'll be coming late.

#15 10-23-2006, 02:26 PM

Well there's another horse I can throwout.

Dunbar · #16 10-23-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Premium Tap has ZERO chance.

That's about as silly as someone saying Pegasus Wind had no chance in the Champagne.

--Dunbar

#17 10-23-2006, 02:34 PM

I have seen quotes from Kimmel stating that he does not wish to face Bernardini. What changed? Bernardini still seems like Bernardini. Perhaps Kimmel now realizes the money to be made coming second through ?

blackthroatedwind · #18 10-23-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar

That's about as silly as someone saying Pegasus Wind had no chance in the Champagne.

--Dunbar

No, my comments are being made before the race. He is too slow, he is distance challenged, and he is pretty much a need the lead type. Nothing about him suits this race.

He has ZERO chance and is the kind of horse people only pick on the internet and don't back with their wallets. He will be 40-1 or more and should be every bit of that.

#19 10-23-2006, 05:41 PM

My understanding is that Prado was aboard for the work and he looked exceptional. He will be a big price and would need a ton of luck, but he is not without a chance, given that many in the classic appear to be over the top. BBB

Dunbar · #20 10-23-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No, my comments are being made before the race. He is too slow, he is distance challenged, and he is pretty much a need the lead type. Nothing about him suits this race.

He has ZERO chance and is the kind of horse people only pick on the internet and don't back with their wallets. He will be 40-1 or more and should be every bit of that.

The only sentence I agree with is the first. I'm not sure about the last.

One thing I am certain of is that he has more than a "zero" chance. If you don't understand that, then you are not as sharp as I thought you were.

I can assure you I will be backing him with my wallet if I see 40-1. I think he has better than a 2.5% chance to win. I'd also take 10-1 that he finishes in front of Bernardini and 4-1 that he finishes in front of any other individual horse in the race. Those are numbers I'm SURE I'd take. I may be willing to go much lower in the matchups.

--Dunbar