Ward Dominates Europe

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

If its an older horse, Ward has been a toss since forever.

Do you auto-toss Todd Pletcher, Steve Asmussen, Mike Trombetta, Bruce Levine, Graham Motion or Steve Klesaris trained horses?

Ward's win % and/or ROI is higher than every one of those guys with 3YOs and up the last 5 years.

[ateamstupid]

For phucks sake, I make a point about Ward's horses in the last month underperforming and it immediately turns into a discussion about Ward as a trainer. I didn't ask for his goddamn numbers at Keeneland or his 2011 numbers. Check our his numbers since Keeneland ended and then tell me he's not an auto-toss right now.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

For phucks sake, I make a point about Ward's horses in the last month underperforming and it immediately turns into a discussion about Ward as a trainer. I didn't ask for his goddamn numbers at Keeneland or his 2011 numbers. Check our his numbers since Keeneland ended and then tell me he's not an auto-toss right now.

I wasn't referring to your post. I am aware of Ward's numbers in the last month, specifically with favorites (3-22, $0.56 ROI).

[art vanderlay]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

For phucks sake, I make a point about Ward's horses in the last month underperforming and it immediately turns into a discussion about Ward as a trainer. I didn't ask for his goddamn numbers at Keeneland or his 2011 numbers. Check our his numbers since Keeneland ended and then tell me he's not an auto-toss right now.

I thought you said spring, I gave you spring meet numbers. Your spring must be a lot shorter than most.

If you have other numbers why not share them.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by art vanderlay

I thought you said spring, I gave you spring meet numbers. Your spring must be a lot shorter than most.

If you have other numbers why not share them.

NTamm posted his horrific numbers as a favorite the last 30 days.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Do you auto-toss Todd Pletcher, Steve Asmussen, Mike Trombetta, Bruce Levine, Graham Motion or Steve Klesaris trained horses?

Ward's win % and/or ROI is higher than every one of those guys with 3YOs and up the last 5 years.

Yes

[blackthroatedwind]

Why would anyone automatically toss any horse? Makes absolutely no sense to me.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why would anyone automatically toss any horse? Makes absolutely no sense to me.

John Candlin

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why would anyone automatically toss any horse? Makes absolutely no sense to me.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

banned!!!!

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why would anyone automatically toss any horse? Makes absolutely no sense to me.

Because a different horse that runs in completely different races has everything to do with it.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes

Yeah, that's right, you stick to guys like Bill Mott, don't you?

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Moryba

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Yeah, that's right, you stick to guys like Bill Mott, don't you?

Beyond strange choice when in the playalong that day I hit the mile turf stake Mott horse for 4 figs....Gave some back on Moryba. How are you a mod again?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Beyond strange choice when in the playalong that day I hit the mile turf stake Mott horse for 4 figs....Gave some back on Moryba. How are you a mod again?

As usual, you've made yourself look silly in this thread again. Congrats, though, on handily winning the Joe Silverio Post In Every Thread Award. Mott's numbers with older horses are AWFUL compared to Ward's. 17%, $1.48 ROI vs. 23%, $1.69 ROI.

It would have just been easier/smarter for you to say, "yeah, it's stupid to say you just automatically toss a given trainer's horses."

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

As usual, you've made yourself look silly in this thread again. Congrats, though, on handily winning the Joe Silverio Post In Every Thread Award. Mott's numbers with older horses are AWFUL compared to Ward's. 17%, $1.48 ROI vs. 23%, $1.69 ROI.

It would have just been easier/smarter for you to say, "yeah, it's stupid to say you just automatically toss a given trainer's horses."

Didn't John Candlin have a pretty healthy ROI as well?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Didn't John Candlin have a pretty healthy ROI as well?

how is he with 2 yr olds in europe

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

As usual, you've made yourself look silly in this thread again. Congrats, though, on handily winning the Joe Silverio Post In Every Thread Award. Mott's numbers with older horses are AWFUL compared to Ward's. 17%, $1.48 ROI vs. 23%, $1.69 ROI.

It would have just been easier/smarter for you to say, "yeah, it's stupid to say you just automatically toss a given trainer's horses."

Battaglia picked Animal Kingdom. There is hope for you yet. No go back to ignoring me so that the readership doesn't cliff dive again. I give the people what they want. Bread and circuses.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Battaglia picked Animal Kingdom. There is hope for you yet. No go back to ignoring me so that the readership doesn't cliff dive again. I give the people what they want. Bread and circuses.

Really? From the guy who whined and bitched about how certain people around here, specifically radio show guests of Steve's, get preferential treatment. How many shots have you taken at people on this board?

I'm glad there's still hope for me, though, it's really refreshing.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Battaglia picked Animal Kingdom. There is hope for you yet. No go back to ignoring me so that the readership doesn't cliff dive again. I give the people what they want. Bread and circuses.

Randall have a heart.. You have two real experts that devote their careers at racing. What's even stranger is they are two people who will seriously listen if you have something to say or are willing to teach if you want to learn. Instead you make outrageous claims that just arent correct. What do expect these guys to say? Its one thing to be wrong shoot these guys are WRONG 75% of the time..It the methodolgy that makes it right not throwing a dart at ocassionally landing on Park Place.. Just pipe down and listen

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Do you auto-toss Todd Pletcher, Steve Asmussen, Mike Trombetta, Bruce Levine, Graham Motion or Steve Klesaris trained horses?

Ward's win % and/or ROI is higher than every one of those guys with 3YOs and up the last 5 years.

These things called facts.......they are very stubborn.