Uncle Mo gets treatment at Winstar

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Let me explain this to you one more time.

Rider says horse is not right
Horse sent to clinic
Horse given clean bill of health
Horse returns to training
Rider says horse still doesn't feel right
Horse sent to different clinic
Clinic can't find anything
Horse sent back into training
Horse runs sub par race
Horse exits race with broken pastern

You don't have to know anything about anything to see what happened here.

I had a filly with a decent pedigree at Tampa a few years back that wasn't training up to par. No heat, no swelling. Xrays and ultrasound showed nothing. Sent her to the clinic in Ocala for a nuclear scan and zero x rays. They pretty much came up with nothing. Gave her a little time (the supposed magic trick). Brought her back toward the end of the meet to run her one more time to see if we could break her maiden and send her to the shed. She ran her typical race and got beat a nose. Came out of the race with a fractured fetlock.

Do you think that injury was random or wasn't what was bothering her initially?

There is a tremendous amount of guess work done with horses in training even with million dollar horses.

Why couldnt it have been a completely random event, being that she was vetted so agressively it is more explainable that it was a random event.
Next time instead of wasting all that money on tests that tell you nothing ship the horse to juan carlos he will hook you right up!

[freddymo]

BTW did you rea Dr Riots post above..A busted pastern is IMPOSSIBLE to MISS

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by freddymo

BTW did you rea Dr Riots post above..A busted pastern is IMPOSSIBLE to MISS

If you are going to cherry pick that line, you should read her next few sentences where she basically agree's with Chuck.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

If you are going to cherry pick that line, you should read her next few sentences where she basically agree's with Chuck.

It is an absolute statement and speaks to fact that Rags did not have a busted pastern as Chuck seems to believe.. BECAUSE ITS AN IMPOSSIBLE THING TO MISS..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by freddymo

It is an absolute statement and speaks to fact that Rags did not have a busted pastern as Chuck seems to believe.. BECAUSE ITS AN IMPOSSIBLE THING TO MISS..

Geeshus ... Chuck's point is absolutely right, they missed whatever she had. I doubt it was a fracture line, because, yep, that's pretty impossible to miss, but as Chuck said, she obviously had something going on, which was completely missed, and resulted in a fractured pastern during the race.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Riot

Geeshus ... Chuck's point is absolutely right, they missed whatever she had. I doubt it was a fracture line, because, yep, that's pretty impossible to miss, but as Chuck said, she obviously had something going on, which was completely missed, and resulted in a fractured pastern during the race.

Dr. Riot are you milk or meat? In your prfessional opinion as an expert, is it likely that Rags to Riches had "a busted pastern" as suggested by Chuck, when she went thru a complete battery of testing?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Dr. Riot are you milk or meat? In your prfessional opinion as an expert, is it likely that Rags to Riches had "a busted pastern" as suggested by Chuck, when she went thru a complete battery of testing?

I'll answer for her since she already answered this exact question.

"No, a busted pastern is impossible to miss. They were looking hard for some instability or defect, yet couldn't find one. Yet that instability was real, it lead to the busted pastern."

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Why couldnt it have been a completely random event, being that she was vetted so agressively it is more explainable that it was a random event.
Next time instead of wasting all that money on tests that tell you nothing ship the horse to juan carlos he will hook you right up!

On one knee and a freshly shaved face, Juan would have diagnosed the probem in minutes..and have a painfree solution to race too..

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Why couldnt it have been a completely random event, being that she was vetted so agressively it is more explainable that it was a random event.
Next time instead of wasting all that money on tests that tell you nothing ship the horse to juan carlos he will hook you right up!

Sure it could be a random event. Probably about a 1% chance of that.