This will effectively kill horse racing

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Clembuterol doesnt make horses run faster when you have to stop giving it 4 days before the race. The fact is because of the environment they live in which is dusty, pretty much all horses can benefit from using it without it having any race altering effect.

The idea that time cures all is ridiculous. As I have said many times, no one yet has convinced me yet that thoroughbred horses shouldn't benefit from modern medicine like every other species on the Earth. Virtually no legal medication given to horses harms them if used properly.

Dutrow deserves whatever fate befalls him. He has plenty of other issues outside of medication violations.

Why would you stop using a drug 4 days before? So its ok to work your horse in 58 and its not harmful or irresponsble so who cares if the horse runs 1:10 7 days later on it in a race? Testing for a drug that you use daily because the enionment is dusty is silly.

Of course time doesnt cure all but it certainly used instead of drugs that will get them to the races faster

[Riot]

I agree we need uniform punishments for violations across all jurisdictions. That is what is needed, not a zero tolerance rule that will harm the health and well-being horses we race.

We have allowed therapeutic medications, and we have the means to test levels of those drugs to a degree more infitismally smaller than we practically need.

Let me put it this way: bank tellers, who handle alot of money, not infrequently test trace positives for cocaine due to secondary exposure to the trace amounts on money. Trainers have had cocaine positives from drug-using stable help touching their horses and transferring cocaine.

We know which levels of these drugs are therapeutic (a dose that works) and thus we know the level of those drugs that could be "performance enhancing or altering"; and so we know the ineffective doses, or the levels that are too low to work, thus cannot be performance enhancing or altering.

We have to have a zero tolerance for overages that could be performance enhancing, but we have to not punish ridiculously for trace amounts of non-performance-enhancing levels of drugs given at an approved therapeutic level within a proper doctor-patient-client relationship.

Example: I give a slightly colicky horse a pain injection Monday afternoon. I report the administration and dose to the stewards (file the vet report). The horse is fine. A little gas bubble for an hour or so, pain never comes back. It runs Friday. They find a teeny tiny microdose trace of the painkilling drug.

This should be of no concern because a report was filed before the horse raced.

If the amount of drug found is higher, closer to therapeutic levels (showing administration closer than Monday) of course there should be a punishment.

But zero tolerance is silly here, and harms the horse.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Why would you stop using a drug 4 days before? So its ok to work your horse in 58 and its not harmful or irresponsble so who cares if the horse runs 1:10 7 days later on it in a race? Testing for a drug that you use daily because the enionment is dusty is silly.

Of course time doesnt cure all but it certainly used instead of drugs that will get them to the races faster

Duh you have to stop giving it to them 4 days or you will come up with positive test....

Next time you feel sick just take a month vacation...

[Cannon Shell]

Not to mention the legislation is basically a joke. The lack of specifics are frightening. I guess the people calling for 50k and 100 k fines aren't familiar with horse racing outside of the KY Derby.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Not to mention the legislation is basically a joke. The lack of specifics are frightening. I guess the people calling for 50k and 100 k fines aren't familiar with horse racing outside of the KY Derby.

Precisely.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Duh you have to stop giving it to them 4 days or you will come up with positive test....

Next time you feel sick just take a month vacation...

OK to train and work on but not ok to run on race day..WHY?

Sick horses need meds sore horses that get injected to block pain or reduce inflammation are completely different.

Who wouldn'r give a horse drugs to cure a sickness?