10:30pm Sunday Night President's Having a Press Conference?

[jms62]

So in the end we got our man but at what cost? Thousands of soldiers, trillions in costs for 2 unfunded wars. The cost of our economy. In the end we got him due to good intellegence and a well trained small strike force... We got him because we didn't let his protectors (Pakistan) in on it.
The question I have is couldn't we simply have focused on that in the first place??? Why wasn't it so blatantly obvious that you don't broadcast your intentions and your plans to the whole world. Hey Afghanistan we are looking for Bin-Laden here and will spend anything to find him here and expect him to stay there if he was. War like poker is deception and no one in his right mind would bet with a weak hand and his cards turned over face up.

Maybe Halliburton et all wouldnt have fared as well. Maybe GWB would have had a harder time getting elected in round 2 but the economy/country would be in a much better place. Just my 2 cents

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by jms62

So in the end we got our man but at what cost? Thousands of soldiers, trillions in costs for 2 unfunded wars. The cost of our economy. In the end we got him due to good intellegence and a well trained small strike force... We got him because we didn't let his protectors (Pakistan) in on it.
The question I have is couldn't we simply have focused on that in the first place??? Why wasn't it so blatantly obvious that you don't broadcast your intentions and your plans to the whole world. Hey Afghanistan we are looking for Bin-Laden here and will spend anything to find him here and expect him to stay there if he was. War like poker is deception and no one in his right mind would bet with a weak hand and his cards turned over face up.

Maybe Halliburton et all wouldnt have fared as well. Maybe GWB would have had a harder time getting elected in round 2 but the economy/country would be in a much better place. Just my 2 cents

Supposedly that was Bin Laden's real mission/goal. To cripple the U.S. economy. While it's great that we got the guy, there is really no reason to celebrate. I'm sure that some people got the closure that they needed. But, Bin Laden accomplished his mission as far as the economy goes and realistically we are no safer today than we were the other day. The world changed permanently that day and there will always be that risk factor going forward.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Supposedly that was Bin Laden's real mission/goal. To cripple the U.S. economy. While it's great that we got the guy, there is really no reason to celebrate. I'm sure that some people got the closure that they needed. But, Bin Laden accomplished his mission as far as the economy goes and realistically we are no safer today than we were the other day. The world changed permanently that day and there will always be that risk factor going forward.

And what he did really is the ONLY way to beat this country. Destroy the economy and the country will eventually be torn apart from the inside as the masses revolt. Laugh but it is an eventuality if things continue on the course. We should learn from the riots in other countries.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

So in the end we got our man but at what cost? Thousands of soldiers, trillions in costs for 2 unfunded wars. The cost of our economy. In the end we got him due to good intellegence and a well trained small strike force... We got him because we didn't let his protectors (Pakistan) in on it.
The question I have is couldn't we simply have focused on that in the first place??? Why wasn't it so blatantly obvious that you don't broadcast your intentions and your plans to the whole world. Hey Afghanistan we are looking for Bin-Laden here and will spend anything to find him here and expect him to stay there if he was. War like poker is deception and no one in his right mind would bet with a weak hand and his cards turned over face up.

Maybe Halliburton et all wouldnt have fared as well. Maybe GWB would have had a harder time getting elected in round 2 but the economy/country would be in a much better place. Just my 2 cents

I have to commend you, this is a very true statement you have made.

I would like to see your response to the following question:

If it was proven that Pakistan knew all the time where Bin Laden was at how does Obama deal with Pakistan? Does this country cut aid to them? This countyry isn't the only country wanting answers from Pakistan.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I have to commend you, this is a very true statement you have made.

I would like to see your response to the following question:

If it was proven that Pakistan knew all the time where Bin Laden was at how does Obama deal with Pakistan? Does this country cut aid to them? This countyry isn't the only country wanting answers from Pakistan.

You and Usama have more in comon then you will ever admit. Both of you are consumed by race fueled hatred. Both disrepect women and verbally abuse them (C word in my book is about as abusive as one can get). Both make idle threats that you couldnt possibly execute on. Both are bullies, Usama protected by Paki's and you by your cable modem. Both of you are lower than whale-s*hit but only one of you can say they are neighbors with whale-s*hit,. STFU, you don't deserve me to give you an opinion and quite frankly aren't smart enough to understand any nuances if I gave you one.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by jms62

You and Usama have more in comon then you will ever admit. Both of you are consumed by race fueled hatred. Both disrepect women and verbally abuse them (C word in my book is about as abusive as one can get). Both make idle threats that you couldnt possibly execute on. Both are bullies, Usama protected by Paki's and you by your cable modem. Both of you are lower than whale-s*hit but only one of you can say they are neighbors with whale-s*hit,. STFU, you don't deserve me to give you an opinion and quite frankly aren't smart enough to understand any nuances if I gave you one.

good job, jms, but you really messed up by throwing "nuances" out there. you know he doesn't know what it means. maybe his wife will tell him!

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

You and Usama have more in comon then you will ever admit. Both of you are consumed by race fueled hatred. Both disrepect women and verbally abuse them (C word in my book is about as abusive as one can get). Both make idle threats that you couldnt possibly execute on. Both are bullies, Usama protected by Paki's and you by your cable modem. Both of you are lower than whale-s*hit but only one of you can say they are neighbors with whale-s*hit,. STFU, you don't deserve me to give you an opinion and quite frankly aren't smart enough to understand any nuances if I gave you one.

Whatever sherlock. Riot started it with her post accusing me of being a wife beater a few months ago. She posted it without any evidence to support it. As Riot would say "Go F u c k Yourself". Don't get too dirty cleaning out the toilets today. If you want to compare with Bin Laden go right ahead, I won't lose any sleep over it. Just curious you racist b@stard, have you ever heard of the 1ST Amendment? Remember the amendment that gives freedom of speech. Now I know why your're a toilet cleaner. Your dumbass can't remember what the the 1ST amendment is.
Just curious, yoiu said you would put Riot against me in an IQ test. Is there a reason why you won't go against me? Are you afraid since you clean toilets for a living that my IQ would be a lot higher than your IQ. Funny your're too yellow to challenge me in an IQ test.

PS You and Riot started it, I will finish on my terms.

I've had enough of your BS for today. I have a tee time this morning and I'm going to get some breakfast.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Whatever sherlock. Riot started it with her post accusing me of being a wife beater a few months ago. She posted it without any evidence to support it. As Riot would say "Go F u c k Yourself". Don't get too dirty cleaning out the toilets today. If you want to compare with Bin Laden go right ahead, I won't lose any sleep over it. Just curious you racist b@stard, have you ever heard of the 1ST Amendment? Remember the amendment that gives freedom of speech. Now I know why your're a toilet cleaner. Your dumbass can't remember what the the 1ST amendment is.
Just curious, yoiu said you would put Riot against me in an IQ test. Is there a reason why you won't go against me? Are you afraid since you clean toilets for a living that my IQ would be a lot higher than your IQ. Funny your're too yellow to challenge me in an IQ test.

PS You and Riot started it, I will finish on my terms.

I've had enough of your BS for today. I have a tee time this morning and I'm going to get some breakfast.

You are too funny.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Whatever sherlock. Riot started it .

Yeah. Right. Poor you.

Geeshus cripes. And, please, do repost where I called you a wife beater. As pointed out to you at the time, no, I did not.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

You and Usama have more in comon then you will ever admit. Both of you are consumed by race fueled hatred. Both disrepect women and verbally abuse them (C word in my book is about as abusive as one can get). Both make idle threats that you couldnt possibly execute on. Both are bullies, Usama protected by Paki's and you by your cable modem. Both of you are lower than whale-s*hit but only one of you can say they are neighbors with whale-s*hit,. STFU, you don't deserve me to give you an opinion and quite frankly aren't smart enough to understand any nuances if I gave you one.

this is really uncalled for.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

this is really uncalled for.

So you are saying Nascar didn't disrespect Riot and you are good with him calling her the C word and I am out of line for calling him out on it? Just need to be clear on this before I respond to your post becuase that is how I take your post.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

So you are saying Nascar didn't disrespect Riot and you are good with him calling her the C word and I am out of line for calling him out on it? Just need to be clear on this before I respond to your post becuase that is how I take your post.

Riot told me I had the penis of a 9 year old. Far worse IMO

and though banning her would make this place more sane it wouldn't be nearly as fun. The ignore option is there for a reason I guess.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Riot told me I had the penis of a 9 year old. Far worse IMO

and though banning her would make this place more sane it wouldn't be nearly as fun. The ignore option is there for a reason I guess.

A thread about us finally getting OBL, which should be a cause for unity is hijacked by folks taking personal shots at one another...seriously, Nascar is in fact an internet bully but that's hardly news, the unfortunate thing is he's leading folks down an unfortunate path. Responding merely feeds his ego at the expense of meaningful discussion.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Riot told me I had the penis of a 9 year old. Far worse IMO

and though banning her would make this place more sane it wouldn't be nearly as fun. The ignore option is there for a reason I guess.

I would take more offense at being told I had the mind of a 9-year-old. Your priorities are indeed strange. And no, you've never called me anything, have you?

I challenge anyone to look through every post I've made on Derby Trail over the past many years, and see where I've cast the first stone at another poster. Yes, Dell and Nascar, I most certainly do defend myself. Nascar, you aren't worth giving the respect of talking to any more.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

So you are saying Nascar didn't disrespect Riot and you are good with him calling her the C word and I am out of line for calling him out on it? Just need to be clear on this before I respond to your post becuase that is how I take your post.

dude Riot accused him of being a wife beater. I would have said a lot worse than the "C" word.

She's going to come back and say she didnt call him a wife beater.. just said he has the same characteristics of a wife beater. (which is kind of true of what she did say.. but i still wouldnt have taken it lightly)

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

dude Riot accused him of being a wife beater. I would have said a lot worse than the "C" word.

She's going to come back and say she didnt call him a wife beater.. just said he has the same characteristics of a wife beater.

I just figured out my post made it sound like Riot called Nascar a mens t-shirt.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

dude Riot accused him of being a wife beater. I would have said a lot worse than the "C" word.

She's going to come back and say she didnt call him a wife beater.. just said he has the same characteristics of a wife beater.

I'm not aware of what Riot posted about Nascar, but saying one has the characteristics of something is NOT the same as saying one is in fact that something. Inflamatory perhaps but not the same. In any event, Riot is capable of addressing this herself but folks here sometimes seem unable to differentiate subtle differences. OK, just read the repost...again, my point remains, she uses the word "sometimes", not the same as "always" or "does".

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

dude Riot accused him of being a wife beater. I would have said a lot worse than the "C" word.

She's going to come back and say she didnt call him a wife beater.. just said he has the same characteristics of a wife beater.

Yes, I did, and if you and Nascar can't understand the deliberate difference in making those two different statements, I can't help you. Some of us care what words actually mean, and choose them thusly.

And the operative wording in that sentence was "domineering misogynistic jackass". I'd think the average person would take offense to that, the point of the sentence. And gee, I wonder why I was compelled to defend myself by calling him that?