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Old 04-28-2011, 02:24 PM
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I know, hoping he'll jog and come back with a big smile (lol). Like I said, he's a major problem for me, you are probably right but I've watched his UAE Derby a dozen times and find little not to like about his race, translating to CD? Who knows??
Other than the fact that he was beaten by a filly: (1) who only, in England last fall, only had a maiden win from three starts; (2) was not even ridden in the UAE Derby by Godolphin's "go" rider; and (3) in the future odds for the Epsom Oaks is listed as the 12-1 fourth choice.
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:37 PM
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was not even ridden in the UAE Derby by Godolphin's "go" rider.
For what its worth, Khawlah would never have been ridden by anyone other than Barzalona, because she was carrying 116 and he was the only one to pull that over there. It was probably the difference in the race.
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:50 PM
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For what its worth, Khawlah would never have been ridden by anyone other than Barzalona, because she was carrying 116 and he was the only one to pull that over there. It was probably the difference in the race.
That's interesting. What weight does Dettori normally do?
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Old 04-28-2011, 04:33 PM
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Forgive me if it's been brought up somewhere and I've just missed it (I haven't had time to catch ATR today yet), but have they decided for sure that Arienza's going to the Oaks? I thought I remembered another race under consideration at Churchill.

http://www.drf.com/blogs/kentucky-oa...-beyer-glasses I saw Mike Watchmaker's Oaks prep Beyers article, and she was listed third to R Heat Lightning and Plum Pretty. Of course, they might not think she's ready yet. How bad was Arienza's BSF for the Fantasy if Joyful Victory's was, I assume, either that 82 or 83 that Mike lists?
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:04 PM
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Forgive me if it's been brought up somewhere and I've just missed it (I haven't had time to catch ATR today yet), but have they decided for sure that Arienza's going to the Oaks? I thought I remembered another race under consideration at Churchill.

http://www.drf.com/blogs/kentucky-oa...-beyer-glasses I saw Mike Watchmaker's Oaks prep Beyers article, and she was listed third to R Heat Lightning and Plum Pretty. Of course, they might not think she's ready yet. How bad was Arienza's BSF for the Fantasy if Joyful Victory's was, I assume, either that 82 or 83 that Mike lists?
Dan Peitz was quoted in an article on DRF saying Arienza will probably go in the Eight Belles

http://www.drf.com/news/derby-trial-...kentucky-derby
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:54 PM
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That's interesting. What weight does Dettori normally do?
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