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Old 04-27-2011, 10:25 PM
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I disagree with most all of this...

The Derby is the greatest single betting race each year, there is so much value there that if you saved some of your weekly/monthly bankroll specifically for it and fired into that race alone, the ROI is simply awesome. Just because there isn't a blatant 2/5 shot for you to lynch onto doesnt make it a bad betting race...

NYRA = Joke. No matter what they do there, that is a big fat bureaucracy that is destined to fail...

Saratoga = NYRA's saving grace, they will destroy it, just give enough time..

Del Mar is the closest track to me, and it was RUINED by Polytrack... The quality of racing in CA is dwindling fast.

SA and Coa are positives.

As I said in my original post, changing to post time will not have any effect on TV viewership. People who want to see it live, will do so no matter the post. The people who want to record it, will do so as well.

Changing things just for the sake of change is pretty immature in my opinion.
Who said anything about it being a bad betting race? I said I didn't like it from a handicapping standpoint, period. Maybe you should learn to read before making stupid comments about 2/5 shots. It's two totally different things we are talking about. Of course there is going to be great value in a 20 horse field.

You are entitled to your opinion about NYRA, regardless how ridculous it sounds. They did it for a while there with smoke and mirrors, so you will probably be eating those words very soon with the infusion of cash that will be coming.

As far as the post time goes, you are right that the regular players will watch it whatever time it's on. Now you are trying to capture as many other non regulars as possible, so what's the harm of casting a line into the primetime waters hoping you catch the big one? I don't see the harm in trying it once to see what the numbers are.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:40 PM
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You are entitled to your opinion about NYRA, regardless how ridculous it sounds. They did it for a while there with smoke and mirrors, so you will probably be eating those words very soon with the infusion of cash that will be coming.
I see the cash coming in bigtime given the massive influx of on-track handle. They spent a little to bring the NYCOTB on track, and while Aqueduct in the winter ain't much, a 70% increase in your attendance will do wonders to your cash flow with all that on-track take.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:43 PM
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I see the cash coming in bigtime given the massive influx of on-track handle. They spent a little to bring the NYCOTB on track, and while Aqueduct in the winter ain't much, a 70% increase in your attendance will do wonders to your cash flow with all that on-track take.
The value of a $1 bet in the building, on the grounds vs. $1 bet from some facility 500 miles away cannot be emphasized enough. Most people don't really understand how significant it is. It's often up to 3x as valuable (if not more). Then when you factor in additional revenue via food/bev etc., it's a big deal.
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