Derby and Performance Figures

[Thunder Gulch]

Dr. Roman never created the Dosage Index as a handicapping tool, he just discovered the results when looking at the winners of the Ky Derby. If you understand what is is and how it reflects speed/stamina characteristics typically passed on by certain sires, it is an interesting study if nothing else. He didn't change the formula as so many naysayers want to believe, but he did change the status of certain sires as sample sizes helped draw firmer conclusions over the life of the stallions. It wasn't an attempt to excuse Strike the Gold's DI, it was Alydar gaining "Chef" status as a "Classic" sire, something it would be difficult argue against in retrospect.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Dr. Roman never created the Dosage Index as a handicapping tool, he just discovered the results when looking at the winners of the Ky Derby. If you understand what is is and how it reflects speed/stamina characteristics typically passed on by certain sires, it is an interesting study if nothing else. He didn't change the formula as so many naysayers want to believe, but he did change the status of certain sires as sample sizes helped draw firmer conclusions over the life of the stallions. It wasn't an attempt to excuse Strike the Gold's DI, it was Alydar gaining "Chef" status as a "Classic" sire, something it would be difficult argue against in retrospect.

I remember actually arguing with some dosage nuts about Strike the Gold, before the Derby. I was going to play him, but was told he can't win because of his high dosage. I tried to explain that because Alydar was almost certainly going to be a chef, with stamina points, that he would indeed be a qualifier, down the road.

The whole concept of Dosage, however, does make some sense. I think people should use a little sense and flexibility with it though.

Then again, if you have any clue about racing and pedigrees, one has no need for dosage.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I remember actually arguing with some dosage nuts about Strike the Gold, before the Derby. I was going to play him, but was told he can't win because of his high dosage. I tried to explain that because Alydar was almost certainly going to be a chef, with stamina points, that he would indeed be a qualifier, down the road.

The whole concept of Dosage, however, does make some sense. I think people should use a little sense and flexibility with it though.

Then again, if you have any clue about racing and pedigrees, one has no need for dosage.

Very true......regarding Alydar, Roman was very slow to upgrade his chef-de-race status. Easy Goer should have made that a no brainer.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

Very true......regarding Alydar, Roman was very slow to upgrade his chef-de-race status. Easy Goer should have made that a no brainer.

Alydar should have been upgraded earlier but they do same by committee and that took time.