Uncle Mo Surgery Conspiracy

[NTamm1215]

It wouldn't be newsworthy if the Eclipse Award winner and heavy Kentucky Derby favorite had surgery in the winter between his 2 and 3YO seasons? Really? This is on the heels of the same trainer, and his go to jockey, being castigated for a fiasco in one of the highest profile races of the year that specifically dealt with information being withheld from the public. The people who bet tens of thousands of dollars on Uncle Mo in Kentucky Derby Future Pool 1 and in other futures both in Vegas and beyond might have wanted to know that the horse had something going on besides "R and R" this winter in Fla.

Either you believe that the wagering public has the right to know or you don't. What Mike Repole attempted to do was establish an aura of invincibility around Uncle Mo. Having an event where a lucky fan was able to meet him? Inviting pre-school students to visit him at his stall at Belmont? Those are things that you can't do when the public knows that the horse is potentially damaged goods. Instead he was exposed and we're now hearing about how he has gas and the topic of missing the Derby is already on their tongues.

We could be in the midst of a really good snow job by Todd Pletcher, who seems like such a shockingly honest and upstanding individual.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It wouldn't be newsworthy if the Eclipse Award winner and heavy Kentucky Derby favorite had surgery in the winter between his 2 and 3YO seasons? Really? This is on the heels of the same trainer, and his go to jockey, being castigated for a fiasco in one of the highest profile races of the year that specifically dealt with information being withheld from the public. The people who bet tens of thousands of dollars on Uncle Mo in Kentucky Derby Future Pool 1 and in other futures both in Vegas and beyond might have wanted to know that the horse had something going on besides "R and R" this winter in Fla.

Either you believe that the wagering public has the right to know or you don't. What Mike Repole attempted to do was establish an aura of invincibility around Uncle Mo. Having an event where a lucky fan was able to meet him? Inviting pre-school students to visit him at his stall at Belmont? Those are things that you can't do when the public knows that the horse is potentially damaged goods. Instead he was exposed and we're now hearing about how he has gas and the topic of missing the Derby is already on their tongues.

We could be in the midst of a really good snow job by Todd Pletcher, who seems like such a shockingly honest and upstanding individual.

I understand why it would be covered up NOW, but why hide it in the first place?? That's what makes no sense to me.

The more I think about it however, the more plausible it is.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I understand why it would be covered up NOW, but why hide it in the first place?? That's what makes no sense to me.

The more I think about it however, the more plausible it is.

NOTHING gets out of the Pletcher barn that TAP doesn't want to get out of the Pletcher barn. Todd never ever wants to admit that any horse in his barn has had any vet care other than routine worming and vaccinations. Knowing what a steel trap that operation is, I'm not shocked at all. I spoke last year with a friend of a friend who used to work for TAP. I was amazed at stories I head than never went public, stuff even Grening didn't know and he knows the NY shedrows better than any reporter.
Let me state that the stuff I heard was NOT about anything illegal. I'm just talking about routine stuff like "Oh, THAT filly, she bowed in training and has a 2yo and a yearling now...or that colt was gelded and is in training at Retama now." These were prominent enough horses that their sudden absence would have raised a red flag.
The tradition in racing is that the horse belongs to it's owner, no matter how the internet wants to make certain horses "the people's horse." Owners/trainers are NOT obligated to disclose every time a top runner gets a runny nose or a bruise. That said, I do agree with NTamm. The trainer/jockey looked pretty bad in the wake of the LAT/BCDistaff situation. I saw Mo in the paddock and he looked as quiet as an old hack, but I have never seen him up close in the paddock before. That could be his typical demeanor. When hundreds of thousands are being bet in futures it would seem like if a horse that has been compared in print to Seattle Slew had surgery last fall, that maybe the public would want to know.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Linny

NOTHING gets out of the Pletcher barn that TAP doesn't want to get out of the Pletcher barn. Todd never ever wants to admit that any horse in his barn has had any vet care other than routine worming and vaccinations. Knowing what a steel trap that operation is, I'm not shocked at all. I spoke last year with a friend of a friend who used to work for TAP. I was amazed at stories I head than never went public, stuff even Grening didn't know and he knows the NY shedrows better than any reporter.
Let me state that the stuff I heard was NOT about anything illegal. I'm just talking about routine stuff like "Oh, THAT filly, she bowed in training and has a 2yo and a yearling now...or that colt was gelded and is in training at Retama now." These were prominent enough horses that their sudden absence would have raised a red flag.
The tradition in racing is that the horse belongs to it's owner, no matter how the internet wants to make certain horses "the people's horse." Owners/trainers are NOT obligated to disclose every time a top runner gets a runny nose or a bruise. That said, I do agree with NTamm. The trainer/jockey looked pretty bad in the wake of the LAT/BCDistaff situation. I saw Mo in the paddock and he looked as quiet as an old hack, but I have never seen him up close in the paddock before. That could be his typical demeanor. When hundreds of thousands are being bet in futures it would seem like if a horse that has been compared in print to Seattle Slew had surgery last fall, that maybe the public would want to know.

Well, that all at least makes some sense. TAP an over the top control freak could explain things.

[tector]

Whatever the story, I don't want to bet Mo in the Derby. It wouldn't be the first time horse won the Derby without me.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tector

Whatever the story, I don't want to bet Mo in the Derby. It wouldn't be the first time horse won the Derby without me.

I don't know. He could be the third choice, after Dialed In and The Factor.

He'd be excellent value.

[Echo Farm]

This will ease your collective minds:

Two things I know for sure. Uncle Mo will win the Derby and The Factor will be no factor in May.
Draynay 13 Apr 2011 1:41 AM

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse...cry-uncle.aspx

Case closed.

[slotdirt]

Some people take themselves way too seriously.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It wouldn't be newsworthy if the Eclipse Award winner and heavy Kentucky Derby favorite had surgery in the winter between his 2 and 3YO seasons? Really? This is on the heels of the same trainer, and his go to jockey, being castigated for a fiasco in one of the highest profile races of the year that specifically dealt with information being withheld from the public. The people who bet tens of thousands of dollars on Uncle Mo in Kentucky Derby Future Pool 1 and in other futures both in Vegas and beyond might have wanted to know that the horse had something going on besides "R and R" this winter in Fla.

Either you believe that the wagering public has the right to know or you don't. What Mike Repole attempted to do was establish an aura of invincibility around Uncle Mo. Having an event where a lucky fan was able to meet him? Inviting pre-school students to visit him at his stall at Belmont? Those are things that you can't do when the public knows that the horse is potentially damaged goods. Instead he was exposed and we're now hearing about how he has gas and the topic of missing the Derby is already on their tongues.

We could be in the midst of a really good snow job by Todd Pletcher, who seems like such a shockingly honest and upstanding individual.

Nick are you referring to rest and relaxation or Rood and Riddle Equine hospital?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Nick are you referring to rest and relaxation or Rood and Riddle Equine hospital?

Uncle FreddyMo,

Were you away all of this time having secret surgery too?

[johnny pinwheel]

uncle mo tested positive for swine flu...............hes a pig.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

uncle mo tested positive for swine flu...............hes a pig.

Give it a rest.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Uncle FreddyMo,

Were you away all of this time having secret surgery too?

Call me Franny Mo now, let's go shopping..

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Call me Franny Mo now, let's go shopping..

I'm not a big shopper, wanna go ride the pretty horseys instead?

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It wouldn't be newsworthy if the Eclipse Award winner and heavy Kentucky Derby favorite had surgery in the winter between his 2 and 3YO seasons? Really? This is on the heels of the same trainer, and his go to jockey, being castigated for a fiasco in one of the highest profile races of the year that specifically dealt with information being withheld from the public. The people who bet tens of thousands of dollars on Uncle Mo in Kentucky Derby Future Pool 1 and in other futures both in Vegas and beyond might have wanted to know that the horse had something going on besides "R and R" this winter in Fla.

Either you believe that the wagering public has the right to know or you don't. What Mike Repole attempted to do was establish an aura of invincibility around Uncle Mo. Having an event where a lucky fan was able to meet him? Inviting pre-school students to visit him at his stall at Belmont? Those are things that you can't do when the public knows that the horse is potentially damaged goods. Instead he was exposed and we're now hearing about how he has gas and the topic of missing the Derby is already on their tongues.

We could be in the midst of a really good snow job by Todd Pletcher, who seems like such a shockingly honest and upstanding individual.

Of course it is newsworthy. The question is why hide it? I'm not buying that it was to preserve/create an aura.

Also, the wagering public has no rights. We are the lowest of the low in this food chain. The more information, the better, but given the vast number of horses that are not stabled at the track, it would be impossible to get accurate reporting on procedures performed on horses since their last start. We are left to speculate on layoffs, unless a trainer or owner gets generous and is genuine with the information. Most tracks have a hard enough time reporting geldings and getting the shoe information out to the masses.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Nick are you referring to rest and relaxation or Rood and Riddle Equine hospital?

The former.

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Of course it is newsworthy. The question is why hide it? I'm not buying that it was to preserve/create an aura.

Also, the wagering public has no rights. We are the lowest of the low in this food chain. The more information, the better, but given the vast number of horses that are not stabled at the track, it would be impossible to get accurate reporting on procedures performed on horses since their last start. We are left to speculate on layoffs, unless a trainer or owner gets generous and is genuine with the information. Most tracks have a hard enough time reporting geldings and getting the shoe information out to the masses.

Without a doubt we're fighting to get what info we can. However, and I'm sure you agree with the distinction, Uncle Mo is a bit more high profile than the average claimer who's been shelved for no apparent reason and is taking forever to get back to the track.

Maybe I'm wrong and I don't know the guy but I think Mike Repole's ego would have been hurt badly by word getting out that his superstar is fragile.

[freddymo]

I thought the word on Uncle Mo was out that he was fragile?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I thought the word on Uncle Mo was out that he was fragile?

Fragility was one of the first things ever brought up about him after he broke his maiden.

Between his connections, breeding, brilliance, etc, these sorts of discussions and events seemed almost inevitable.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Fragility was one of the first things ever brought up about him after he broke his maiden.

Between his connections, breeding, brilliance, etc, these sorts of discussions and events seemed almost inevitable.

aka Eskendereya showing up with wraps and people telling me I was crazy to think he is anything but a 100%. yeah right

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

aka Eskendereya showing up with wraps and people telling me I was crazy to think he is anything but a 100%. yeah right

Yeah, that was one of the rare times I was in agreement with you.

It seemed suspicious.