Discreet Cat

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Bernardini

Mile or BCC, i think he is overmatched either way.

Overmatched? Interesting. I guess you don't think much of this colt. Just to make this more interesting -- who is he overmatched against in the mile?

Eric

[ELA]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Here's my take. The BC Mile is one of the most difficult races on BC day to win. Usually a full field, with for the most part the best America has to offer, and a pretty good sampling from Europe. DC has never raced on turf, and while there is no doubt he has been ultra impressive, it would be asking a lot. It's obvious they want no part of the BC with DC, and I'm not sold on him getting 1 1/4. That being said, he'll probably win the Cigar Mile, go to Dubai, win the Dubai World Cup, and retire eventually, after some teases that he'll run here. I highly doubt we ever see him on the turf, because there is no reason to run him on it.

I agree. I will say this however, it would not shock me if this horse has been on the turf. Not that it would mean anything whatsoever of course. I would like to see them stick with the plan, bring him back next year and I very much hope he comes back sound, healthy, etc. If he does we might be in for something very special.

Eric

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

This horse reminds me of being a Ghostzapper type without maybe being able to get a mile and a quarter. I think his best races will be a mile and an eight or less. Totally freaky and fast, but incredibly fragile. I think this horse is EXTREMELY talented. I don't have see him face more accomplished horses to know how good he is. I know this isn't much of an argument because of the circumstances in Dubai with Invasor, but he did beat him quite easily.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Totally freaky and fast, but incredibly fragile. .

And when he goes to stud, breeders will line up to breed to him for $100K a pop. At the same time bemoaning in their seminars how the number of starts per horse have declined recently. I wish I could shake some sense into their heads and make them send their prime mares to Tiznow, Slew City Slew, Devil His Due, Include, instead of their third level.

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

And when he goes to stud, breeders will line up to breed to him for $100K a pop. At the same time bemoaning in their seminars how the number of starts per horse have declined recently. I wish I could shake some sense into their heads and make them send their prime mares to Tiznow, Slew City Slew, Devil His Due, Include, instead of their third level.

I agree from what I know, but I was surprised by Tiznow. Why breed to him?

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

I agree from what I know, but I was surprised by Tiznow. Why breed to him?

Who wants to breed to a horse that didn't even run in a stake race until the summer of his 3 yo year? Forget that he won 5 or 6 mil and is the only horse to win two BC classics.

[Danzig]

tiz has hit the ground running in his new career, already the sire of a bc winner. good to see!