The Red Sox Are Finished

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

A Rods contract 10 years 275 million (avg 27.5 million) Not much to say
CC-7 years 161 million (23 million) Completely overbid with 7 yr deal
Teixeria- 8 years 180 million (22.5) completely overbid with 8 year deal
Burnett -5 years 82million (16.5) LOL
Jeters latest 3 years 51 milion (17 million) Think he is worth it now?
Mo 2 years 30 million (15 million) deserves every penny
Posada 4 years 52 million (13 million) produces like a 2 million dollar player now
Soriano- 3 years 35 million (12 million) 12 million for a set up guy?

The Yankees Payrolls since 2004
2010: $213,359,389
2009: $201,449,189
2008: $209,081,577
2007: $189,639,045
2006: $194,663,079
2005: $208,306,817
2004: $184,193,950

The Red Sox Payroll since 2004
(Major League contracts plus pro-rated signing bonuses):
2010: $168,109,833
2009: $121,745,999
2008: $133,390,035
2007: $143,026,214
2006: $120,099,824
2005: $123,505,125
2004: $127,298,500

The Phillies payroll since 2004
2010: $138,178,379
2009: $113,004,046
2008: $ 98,269,880
2007: $ 89,428,213
2006: $ 88,273,333
2005: $ 95,522,000
2004: $ 93,219,167

The Mets payroll since 2004
2010: $126,498,096
2009: $149,373,987
2008: $137,793,376
2007: $115,231,663
2006: $101,084,963
2005: $101,305,821
2004: $ 96,660,970

The White Sox payroll since 2004
2010: $103,080,000
2009: $ 96,068,500
2008: $121,189,332
2007: $108,671,833
2006: $102,750,667
2005: $ 75,178,000
2004: $ 65,212,500

The Cubs payroll since 2004
2010: $144,359,000
2009: $134,809,000
2008: $118,345,833
2007: $ 99,670,332
2006: $ 94,424,499
2005: $ 87,032,933
2004: $ 90,560,00

The Tigers payroll since 2004
2010: $133,995,400
2009: $115,085,145
2008: $137,685,196
2007: $ 95,180,369
2006: $ 82,612,866
2005: $ 69,092,000
2004: $ 46,832,000

You have to pay those players. Do you think they wanted to pay Jeter that money or even close? Don't be ignorant to prove a point.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You have to pay those players. Do you think they wanted to pay Jeter that money or even close? Don't be ignorant to prove a point.

What do you mean you have to pay those players? They couldn't have let Posada walk? They HAD to sign Texieria? They NEEDED to pay Burnett 80 million? Someone held a gun to their head to give $12 million to a Soriano to be a 8th inning guy? Jeter is obviously a special case because of his place in the teams history but they consistently simply throw money at guys to cover their mistakes. Hell they tried to sign Lee to a monumental contract and couldnt get it done. Say what you want about Boston but at least they seem to have a plan and make most moves logically. They are just as serious a contender as the Yankees are every year since 04 and are doing it for much less. The Yankees have spent 1.398 billion in payroll since 04, Boston has spent 935 million. Thats $463 million less or 66 million a year less.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What do you mean you have to pay those players? They couldn't have let Posada walk? They HAD to sign Texieria? They NEEDED to pay Burnett 80 million? Someone held a gun to their head to give $12 million to a Soriano to be a 8th inning guy? Jeter is obviously a special case because of his place in the teams history but they consistently simply throw money at guys to cover their mistakes. Hell they tried to sign Lee to a monumental contract and couldnt get it done. Say what you want about Boston but at least they seem to have a plan and make most moves logically. They are just as serious a contender as the Yankees are every year since 04 and are doing it for much less. The Yankees have spent 1.398 billion in payroll since 04, Boston has spent 935 million. Thats $463 million less or 66 million a year less.

The Yankees have had to spend more because of the legacy players from the late nineties and also because of the Arod contract...which Boston would have loved to have inherited! Again, we have had this discussion before. I don't dispute that the Sox have done a better job with payroll. But to a point where they aren't throwing some money around? What do you call Crawford and Gonzales? What do you call Lackey???? Lackey is probably the highest paid number 3 or 4 pitcher in the game. Look at what Boston pays for pitchers 3, 4 and 5. Do I have to dig out the salaries or will you just accept that they are ridiculous numbers in relation to the output especially recently?

I think the Sox are a well run franchise. But they buy their championships. Make no mistake.