Meltdown??

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Firemen, police, our military are often put in harm's way...they are all heroic and have my upmost respect, as do the folks in Japan but the moral issue of allowing people to sacrifice their lives to perpetuate a myth is my issue. Recent reports indication that the radiation from reactor #4 has reached the fatal level, moving folks in and out will not solve this if true. The Japanese have shown in the past that they will give their lives for their country, there is no moral justification for the government taking advantage of this for political reasons if the recent reports are correct.

I don't think they are worried more about political reasons, than that they are still trying to prevent 4 nuclear reactors from melting down.

I haven't seen anything about "fatal levels" (by which I assume you mean definitively lethal) in reactor 4, only that there was a rise with withdrawal of personnel today, now they are back.

Here's a pretty good update from this afternoon:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7701045.story

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

"Marias Free" blew up the 1st leg of the (14% takeout) Late pick 4 at Portland Meadows.

[Riot]

For those here who are more ignorant than news-conscious, here is a simple video that will explain to those who obviously haven't been paying the least bit of attention, how the nuclear disaster was initiated due to the backup diesel generators, making electricity for cooling, failing in the tsunami:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdbitRlbLDc

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

I don't think they are worried more about political reasons, than that they are still trying to prevent 4 nuclear reactors from melting down.

I haven't seen anything about "fatal levels" (by which I assume you mean definitively lethal) in reactor 4, only that there was a rise with withdrawal of personnel today, now they are back.

Here's a pretty good update from this afternoon:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7701045.story

CNN reports that situation is continuing to worsen and fatal levels of radiation are coming from reactor #4, at this point it is impossible to assess so I think great care should be extended before exposing workers, perhaps you can read the minds of Japanese officials but I cannot....I'm making no accusations as fact merely expressing concern.

[dellinger63]

The International Atomic Energy Agency should take over and if they can't, save as many lives as possible and fire every last a-hole on their payroll and disband the whole agency. Like Dems usually do, take a negative and make it a crisis. Only this time do it the Rep way and save money.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

CNN reports that situation is continuing to worsen and fatal levels of radiation are coming from reactor #4, at this point it is impossible to assess so I think great care should be extended before exposing workers, perhaps you can read the minds of Japanese officials but I cannot....I'm making no accusations as fact merely expressing concern.

It is worsening, absolutely. But if they abandon now, there will definitively be four reactor meltdowns, rather than one.

Perhaps the government is forcing the private workers to stay on the job, in spite of saying it became a volunteer operation a couple days ago. I'm grateful those workers take their jobs seriously.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

It is worsening, absolutely. But if they abandon now, there will definitively be four reactor meltdowns, rather than one.

Perhaps the government is forcing the private workers to stay on the job, in spite of saying it became a volunteer operation a couple days ago. I'm grateful those workers take their jobs seriously.

I too am grateful but remain suspicious...distrust of government is a cross I bear!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I too am grateful but remain suspicious...distrust of government is a cross I bear!

Then don't look at Michigan or Wisconsin too closely

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

Then don't look at Michigan or Wisconsin too closely

Unfortunately it's too late for that! Still, a bit of apples and oranges....protecting our rights is one thing, protecting human life another.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I too am grateful but remain suspicious...distrust of government is a cross I bear!

Government is her religion

[dellinger63]

Look these were 40 year old plants that worked perfectly until a 8 plus earthquake hit. The landlords, company, government, and whoever certifies the plants are liable the company that built plant did a great job.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Look these were 40 year old plants that worked perfectly until a 8 plus earthquake hit. The landlords, company, government, and whoever certifies the plants are liable the company that built plant did a great job.

Many experts have said that these plants have design flaws that have been known for years, there are a number of US plants designed the same way. The problem with Nuke plants is there are no small accidents...I still support Nuke power but admit that safety has to be job #1.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Look these were 40 year old plants that worked perfectly until a 8 plus earthquake hit. The landlords, company, government, and whoever certifies the plants are liable the company that built plant did a great job.

Except for not putting the backup diesel power generators above the flood line of a tsunami. Which is the singular cause of all the problems.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Government is her religion

Sometimes people feel they have to fight aggressively against huge government overreach, the violation of and removal of our constitutional rights, and illegal overreach by politicians thinking they are dictators.

You should try that sometimes - feels good!

[timmgirvan]

[quote=Riot;761134]Sometimes people feel they have to fight aggressively against huge government overreach, the violation of and removal of our constitutional rights, and illegal overreach by politicians thinking they are dictators.

you took the words right outta my mouth!