Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker

[Riot]

Yeah. They've just signed their guaranteed recalls. Wow. And Walker again lies outright to the Democrats. I can't understand why he's so willing to sign his own political death warrant as a demagogue. He's not a smart guy, is he?

"You are cowards!" spectators in the Senate gallery screamed as lawmakers voted. Within hours, a crowd of a few hundred protesters inside the Capitol had grown to several thousand, more than had been in the building at any point during weeks of protests.

"The whole world is watching!" they shouted as they pressed up against the heavily guarded entrance to the Senate chamber.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah. They've just signed their guaranteed recalls. Wow. And Walker again lies outright to the Democrats. I can't understand why he's so willing to sign his own political death warrant as a demagogue. He's not a smart guy, is he?

smart enough to fool the Dems.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

smart enough to fool the Dems.

Not so much, Timmi. They clearly violated Wisconsin's strict open meeting notification law. Probably will not hold up in court. Judges already being called late at night for injunctions, etc.

They also violated the judges recent specific order that the public must be allowed inside the Capital (they were restricting access today).

The lawyers have already descended on this latest nonsense.

The public tonight has retaken the capital building - they literally stormed the doors and have occupied the building. I hope there isn't violence.

Act Blue raised $100,000 in 2 hours tonight, money still flowing in, tomorrow there will be ad blitzes in all the Republican districts. The Republicans in the Assembly still have to vote on this, which is scheduled for tomorrow - which would be another violation of the open meeting notification act (too soon, need 24 hours notice)

Walker stripped every financial thing out of the bill to pass the union busting provision only. The Senate Republican president was on Fox saying the union busting is all about the 2012 Presidential and trying to control donations to beat Obama.

Anybody still naive enough to believe the lie this union busting had anything remotely to do with any budget deficit?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Riot

Walker stripped every financial thing out of the bill to pass the union busting provision only.

The Union Busting Provision is Fiscal (financial.) That's why they need a quorum to legally pass it. They didn't legally pass it. If it's not fiscal, he could of done this 2-3 weeks ago. I think that the DEMS should of stayed in the state, and had the vote. Maybe then, people would realize how important it is to vote in elections. Force them to change this back by voting these people out (recalling them etc.) In other words, give these idiots (that don't think the parties are different) an education on just how different the party ideologies are.

[Riot]

Here is the video of the illegal committee meeting. Attorneys General for WI already contacted about this law violation

http://wiseye.org/Programming/VideoA...px?evhdid=3885

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The Union Busting Provision is Fiscal (financial.) That's why they need a quorum to legally pass it. They didn't legally pass it. If it's not fiscal, he could of done this 2-3 weeks ago. I think that the DEMS should of stayed in the state, and had the vote. Maybe then, people would realize how important it is to vote in elections. Force them to change this back by voting these people out (recalling them etc.) In other words, give these idiots (that don't think the parties are different) an education on just how different the party ideologies are.

I think the WI 14 resigned and should have been replaced immediately
they only like democracy when it is a means to an end

destroy liberty

[Riot]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I think the WI 14 resigned and should have been replaced immediately
they only like democracy when it is a means to an end

destroy liberty

As is being seen in Wisconsin, trying to be a dictator in a democratic republic doesn't work very well.

[nebrady]

Seriously lady you don't live in wisconsin and this has become an absolute joke. Those 14 democrats are a bunch of children playing hide n seek! We don't like that we aren't in control anymore so instead of doing there job lets go hide in illinois! Give me a break! Get your asses back and vote! As for walker he got voted in on the basis that he would help balance wisconsin's budget. Hes trying to fix something that has been needed for awhile. Democrats are still mad that the train fell through, which would have cost the state in the long run. Not to mention you have idiots like jesse jackson and michael moore coming to the state to preach their garbage. The us isn't broke is moore for real. Its time these idiots quit being children get back to wisconsin and vote. Thats what they were elected to do!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

As is being seen in Wisconsin, trying to be a dictator in a democratic republic doesn't work very well.

your side lost!....get over it!

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not so much, Timmi. They clearly violated Wisconsin's strict open meeting notification law. Probably will not hold up in court. Judges already being called late at night for injunctions, etc.

They also violated the judges recent specific order that the public must be allowed inside the Capital (they were restricting access today).

The lawyers have already descended on this latest nonsense.

The public tonight has retaken the capital building - they literally stormed the doors and have occupied the building. I hope there isn't violence.

Act Blue raised $100,000 in 2 hours tonight, money still flowing in, tomorrow there will be ad blitzes in all the Republican districts. The Republicans in the Assembly still have to vote on this, which is scheduled for tomorrow - which would be another violation of the open meeting notification act (too soon, need 24 hours notice)

Walker stripped every financial thing out of the bill to pass the union busting provision only. The Senate Republican president was on Fox saying the union busting is all about the 2012 Presidential and trying to control donations to beat Obama.

Anybody still naive enough to believe the lie this union busting had anything remotely to do with any budget deficit?

I thought all the polls showed the public was in favor of the democrats and against walker. If this is actually the case how would that help the republicans in 2012

[geeker2]

It kinda reminded me of the passage of Obamakare - except Riot and the DEMS thought that was OK procedurally and legal.

Being in the majority has its perks.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by geeker2

It kinda reminded me of the passage of Obamakare - except Riot and the DEMS thought that was OK procedurally and legal.

Being in the majority has its perks.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I triple those trophies!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

It kinda reminded me of the passage of Obamakare - except Riot and the DEMS thought that was OK procedurally and legal.
.

What an absurd contention. Of course and beyond obviously the passage of that law was entirely legal and procedurally valid. Nobody has ever questioned that, not even the GOP.

That law was also available to the public on the internet for several days before the final vote. It wasn't passed with the Committee Chair outright refusing to give out copies of the law, nor was it passed secretly without proper notice.

You must be mouthing today's right-wing blogosphere meme whining about "reconciliation". Except reconciliation wasn't used to pass the majority of the PPACA. Try again.

It's kind of embarrassing, the pro-Walker talking points being handed out about this over the past couple days. They are simply inaccurate. It does prove how many don't pay any attention whatsoever to what happens in Washington, even for huge deals (like the PPACA)

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Riot

What an absurd contention. Of course and beyond obviously the passage of that law was entirely legal and procedurally valid. Nobody has ever questioned that, not even the GOP.

That law was also available to the public on the internet for several days before the final vote. It wasn't passed with the Committee Chair outright refusing to give out copies of the law, nor was it passed secretly without proper notice.

You must be mouthing today's right-wing blogosphere meme whining about "reconciliation". Except reconciliation wasn't used to pass the majority of the PPACA. Try again.

It's kind of embarrassing, the pro-Walker talking points being handed out about this over the past couple days. They are simply inaccurate. It does prove how many don't pay any attention whatsoever to what happens in Washington, even for huge deals (like the PPACA)

Ror!!

Besides all the whinning and crying there is no way this vote will ever be considered illegal - no matter how much you or the Dems or Michael Moore or Jesse Jackass wish it to be so.

They need to change their chant to "It's all over...It's all over" !!

Now get back to work and do something productive like the rest of us.

[AeWingnut]

legislative process got you down
democracy not your friend
try intimidation, fear and violence

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...60-503544.html

[Riot]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

legislative process got you down
democracy not your friend
try intimidation, fear and violence

You mean like the death threats against Obama going up 400 times normal right after the election, and through the inauguration? Senate candidate Sharron Angle saying we should use our "second amendment remedies" if we don't like what our government is doing? Congresswoman Gabby Giffords being shot? Muslim-Kenyan-Communists are coming for YOU!?

Threats and violence are never right. Too bad that's become acceptable talk within the public sphere within the past couple of years.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

I thought all the polls showed the public was in favor of the democrats and against walker. If this is actually the case how would that help the republicans in 2012

It won't. The GOP attempt to strip their opposition financially is failing, big time.

The 2012 election will be won in the midwest: Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio. It's nice of Walker to put Wisconsin fully in the "blue" column.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

This is why I think the stupidest person that ever comes on here is the guy who thinks both parties are the same. No, simpleton, they are not the same. This is one issue that displays it in full. One party supports the rights of unions, and the other does not. 1 Republican voted against taking away collective bargaining rights (because he's from a tough district.) 18 yes 1 no. I guarantee you the Dems would of all voted against it. One would have to be so damn stupid to think these two parties are alike. The only reason they get results that don't differ greatly is because members of the other party are there in rather equal numbers. When they aren't, like right now in Wisconsin, you now see that, (given an overwhelming majority to work with,) the parties are indeed very different in ideology.