3/12 (TAM): Pletcher enters Mo and Brethren; field of 10 for Derby

[NTamm1215]

What will come out of this all is if another Pletcher horse wins the Derby, and considering the favorite is likely to come from his barn, they will have to be ready to run back in two weeks if they're hoping for a Triple Crown. Pletcher is 0-14 over the last five years with graded stakes horses coming back in 14 days or less. It clearly doesn't fit his "program."

[3kings]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What will come out of this all is if another Pletcher horse wins the Derby, and considering the favorite is likely to come from his barn, they will have to be ready to run back in two weeks if they're hoping for a Triple Crown. Pletcher is 0-14 over the last five years with graded stakes horses coming back in 14 days or less. It clearly doesn't fit his "program."

Good stat. My question is why does everyone copy- cat stuff that negatively impacts the sport. It is getting tiresome never seeing the top contenders run against each other. I'm in the Sightseek camp, make the 2 year old earnings count only 1/2 at most and weigh the earnings by Grading ( I, II, III) while they are at it.

[Linny]

Todd has become the tail that wags the dog in this game. He stuttered about the TB Derby and GP hopped in to create a nonsense race. No one in their right mind would face Mo for so little money, especially UNGRADED money. He gets a public work, scheduled and paid foressentially as a backup plan. Other trainers who might be looking at the two options have to weigh decisions based on how they feel about running second and for how much money.
It becomes a self fulfilling prophesy when Todd (or any trainer) controls so many horses within a division (whether it's 3yo colts or NW2X allowance fillies) because Todd can get racing offices to change conditions and dates of races and add races to satisfy his barn.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Linny

It becomes a self fulfilling prophesy when Todd (or any trainer) controls so many horses within a division (whether it's 3yo colts or NW2X allowance fillies) because Todd can get racing offices to change conditions and dates of races and add races to satisfy his barn.

Plus it spreads-out good horses, leaving fewer options for stakes races throughout the year. With Todd having say 2 or 3 of the best of division "x" - when that stake comes-up at Belmont, or Saratoga, he runs one of them. Whereas if those horses who spread-out more, they all would be there.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What will come out of this all is if another Pletcher horse wins the Derby, and considering the favorite is likely to come from his barn, they will have to be ready to run back in two weeks if they're hoping for a Triple Crown. Pletcher is 0-14 over the last five years with graded stakes horses coming back in 14 days or less. It clearly doesn't fit his "program."

I wonder if that experience last year has caused him to adjust the training of Uncle Mo, so he would be more suited to wheeling back in two weeks. Then again, the horse was hanging-out at the beach for a few months before even posting a workout. So who knows.