Breeders Cup Juvenile Subsequent Form

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

As was pointed out, horses improve from 2 to 3. Not shocking.

Point totally missed.

However ... here are some of the past BC Juvie winners...

'09: Vale of York
'08: Midshipman
'07: War Pass
'05: Stevie Wonderboy
'04: Wilko
'03: Action This Day
'02: Vindiacation (at least he never raced again)
'01: Johanesburgh
'00: Macho Uno (injury's kept him out till he lost an alw comeback at SAR)
'99: Anees
"98: Answer Lively
'97: Favorite Trick
'96: Boston Harbor

And that group looks like a stellar collection of improvers compared with the fillies.

Obviously - most of the ones above didn't improve because of physical issues. Some like Favorite Trick were just very precocious sprinters. A lot of them raced in poor 2-year-old crops.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Point totally missed.

However ... here are some of the past BC Juvie winners...

'09: Vale of York
'08: Midshipman
'07: War Pass
'05: Stevie Wonderboy
'04: Wilko
'03: Action This Day
'02: Vindiacation (at least he never raced again)
'01: Johanesburgh
'00: Macho Uno (injury's kept him out till he lost an alw comeback at SAR)
'99: Anees
"98: Answer Lively
'97: Favorite Trick
'96: Boston Harbor

And that group looks like a stellar collection of improvers compared with the fillies.

Obviously - most of the ones above didn't improve because of physical issues. Some like Favorite Trick were just very precocious sprinters. A lot of them raced in poor 2-year-old crops.

That is one horse in each race. Take the entire group they raced against and you see something different.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

That is one horse in each race. Take the entire group they raced against and you see something different.

Now you're catching on. The healthy ones improved. The ones with issues mostly did not.