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![]() I have no idea what your problem is except extreme arrogance, but go ahead and say that the horse ran a good race. I eagerly anticipate your analysis - or was your comment about War Front as much as we can expect from you. You sure have a hard time being civil. |
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Look at the rest of the comments. I'm not the only one who thinks you're being typically ridiculous. |
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![]() If you think he's being too nice, instead of being gutless, why don't you come at me with guns blazing? I can handle it, believe me. Go ahead - say what you really feel. |
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![]() So...Gourmet Dinner isn't horrible. That is all.
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![]() 2011 model of Jackson Bend. Very game and hard-trying.
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![]() I still think his best game would be a fast paced 7f race. I wasn't watching him close - but he seemed to have a perfect position and looked ultra menacing on the far turn only to hang in the stretch. I would have made a strong bet on him today had he run in the Hutcheson instead.
I liked To Honor And Serve's race. He was wide on both turns and had every right to be flat off of the layoff. It was the kind of performance that gets people to overreact. Funny Cide was like a fading 5th with a similar wide trip in his 3yo debut -- he was a very fast 2yo and after that race - I think he was an incredible high price in Derby futures. Soldat had every advantage in the world going for him coming into this race - he had a great draw, you knew he would send, and speed typically dominates these Derby prep races - especially at 9fs. Soldat's going to be another in a long line of speed horses who brings strong form into the Ky Derby only to see himself get cooked by sprinter/miler speed. |
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![]() It's hard to say - at a glance. I'm playing a few night tracks now and this figure isn't going to be an easy one imo.
The race went a little less than 2 full seconds faster than some lightly raced bums in the first race at the same distance. The 7f and 8f races there require seperate variants. |
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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![]() Am I the only one who wants to puke every time someone writes "THAS"?
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![]() From Mrs. Weber regarding Honor/Serve: "Pulled up fine. We survive to fight the next battle."
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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![]() Thinking this was anything other than a very disappointing effort by To Honor and Serve feels like seeing what you want to see as opposed to what you really saw. For the first time he hasn't had an absolutely perfect trip, and he didn't exactly set the world on fire, and his trip was far from bad. How good is Gourmet Dinner....and he buried him. Yes, he had a better trip, but To Honor and Serve is supposed to be a superior horse to him....and it wasn't close today.
Sorry, but it seems to me that horses that are going to the Derby off two preps are likely a lot more cranked up than people seem to want to believe. To Honor and Serve packed it in after seven furlongs today. After today I am inclined to go to the " horse he was dressed up by two straight dream trips " side of the fence.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB |
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On the one hand I'm always a bit hesitant to write off a disappointing performance on the grounds that the trainer didn't have the horse "cranked," because I'm somewhat skeptical of trainers ability to control when a horse is "cranked." On the other hand, with horses on the Derby Trail, where there is one definite goal race, I suppose it is possible that connections hold something back with a horse like this whose position in the field is already assured if he's healthy. |
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![]() Even if To Honor And Serve was fully cranked and had preps in him for this - The other speeds were herding there way out going into the first turn - and he got caught miserably wide around that first turn on what was a solid early pace being set by a very sharp horse.
When he was struggling to go with a perfectly positioned Soldat - and a good closing sprinter like Gourmet Dinner was positioned so perfectly and about to come by him on the turn- it's when horses can just hit the reset button and plain quit...even fit ones going 9fs off a layoff. To me - that was the exact race I wanted to see if I was going to like anything about To Honor And Serve going forward. If Soldat wasn't involved in that race - To Honor And Serve gets to control the pace rating just off that silly Maker longshot ... Dominguez's hand is forced to move early on Gourmet Dinner - he is sent along to confront a fresh To Honor And Serve on the turn - and he gets shrugged off in the stretch. To Honor And Serve wins the race and does it by putting late margins on the field...and his reputation grows. |
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![]() You don't have to care. But drop the incredulous victim act when people react sarcastically to your routine.
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Victim act? LOL I disagree with you on THAS and instead of reacting civillly, you get up on your high horse. I'm sure you'll select THAS on top in whatever race he runs in next, right? He's going to be a horse you look at carefully before wagering your hard earned $$ ? |
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Don't worry about who I bet on. That's not germane to this discussion in the least. The point is, anyone who thinks the horse should be taken off the Derby trail because he wasn't sharp today is completely overreacting. |