2/19- (SA): San Luis Obispo, San Carlos (G2's); San Vincente (G2)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Not working him at all? He was in a full drive the entire length of the stretch. He had no horse left at all.

You're not supposed to win a 7f race by running the first 6f in 107:30.

[pucknut]

ive watched the race three times his tongue was not draggin
there is gas left in this horse;s tank martin was not urging the riens at all at the end
we will have to see next time when he goes longer
i believe garcia had the wire and sway measured
he has worked this horse knows the track and this was not his first rodeo

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pucknut

ive watched the race three times his tongue was not draggin
there is gas left in this horse;s tank martin was not urging the riens at all at the end
we will have to see next time when he goes longer
i believe garcia had the wire and sway measured
he has worked this horse knows the track and this was not his first rodeo

How are 2 people seeing the same race so differently? Ill go to Cal Racing now and be back in 5 minutes with what really happened.

[pucknut]

rock its on bloodhorse too

[pucknut]

ps love the debate its great!

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pucknut

rock its on bloodhorse too

Lets start with the actual race. Again Sway Away IMO never really runs. He sits the dream of all dream trips. 2 horses brutally attack The Factor on the front end, at this time Sway Away is sitting last on the rail. Off the pace and saving ground. IMO Sway Away just ran OK and if I liked him coming in or bet him I would wonder to myself how he will ever get a better trip. I would wonder how it would be possible for him to get a better setup and as the races get longer and the crazy speed horses like City Cool are not running how I can get close to The Factor. I would also seriously question anyone saying he will just get better going long. Why? Stretch out sprinters now are the thing going long? I don't get it. He with the quick hype already reminds me a bit of Imperial Council. I get the trainer stats and all, but the good horses make the trainers look great.
Back to the front end of the race. City Cool is a slug, but he has serious early speed. He has 21.3-22 flat 45 flat type of real dirt speed. The Factor just disposed of him early on. Premier Pegasus also has early gas, serious early speed. If we are talking trainer stats, the stats are good with this one. He went out and went after The Factor early also, he also was a causality of The Factors true raw talent and speed. Premier Pegasus is OK. Thats what I was most impressed with. People need to understand this horse has had 2 workouts. He has basicley done nothing in 2 months.
As for actually watching the stretch run, it looks to me like Garcia is riding him pretty hard still. One could say he is in a full out drive the entire stretch run. Its OK though, remember the brutal attack inside and outside early on. He had every right to get tired late. His talent carried him home.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pucknut

ive watched the race three times his tongue was not draggin
there is gas left in this horse;s tank martin was not urging the riens at all at the end
we will have to see next time when he goes longer
i believe garcia had the wire and sway measured
he has worked this horse knows the track and this was not his first rodeo

You're fooling yourself. Garcia had him in a full drive the entire length of the stretch and he was staggering in the final 1/8th.

[pucknut]

agree garcia is working him at the top of the strech and uses the whip mid
watch the final 16th he stops all urging about three jumps from the wire
i will admit i have a biased eye
ive been watching this horse since his maiden and love speed horses
but whats going to be even more fun is if he comes away healthy and goes distance next time

[dalakhani]

The factor was totally spent. He was probably short considering he only worked twice since his last race. That speed duel certainly didn't help.

I am not convinced that horse can't get two turns.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You're fooling yourself. Garcia had him in a full drive the entire length of the stretch and he was staggering in the final 1/8th.

He got tired, but he's still moving very well for a horse who ran 43.41_ 107:31 (pending the Da Hoss' investigation) the first 6f of the race.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You're not supposed to win a 7f race by running the first 6f in 107:30.

I don't think the time is right at all. I find it hard to believe they got the second quarter in 21 and 2 and the third in 23 and 4. Something isn't right.