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Old 02-19-2011, 09:48 AM
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Machen wins a maiden and Optional Claimer and he is being treated like the next coming. Winning against 50.3 and 115.3 while looking somewhat Green. Sorry I do not see it. I will be double fisting it in on Rogue Romance.

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Old 02-19-2011, 11:13 AM
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I don't usually pay a lot of attention to workout times because (as has been talked about many times before on this site) if you didn't see the work or even hear the trainer discuss it you can't really know much about the work. The raw times of the workouts don't usually reveal a lot.

That being said, I'm curious about how people look at works that appear unusual for a trainer's typical pattern. I ask here because Justin Phillip's last two works seem unusually quick for an Asmussen horse training for a route.

Do people think that means anything because it breaks with a trainer's typical approach? Do you consider that a good sign? Or maybe a bad one? Or....is it completely meaningless.

Just curious.

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Old 02-19-2011, 11:31 AM
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Machen wins a maiden and Optional Claimer and he is being treated like the next coming.
Nice post.

I'm going with Decisive Moment.
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Old 02-19-2011, 11:36 AM
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I don't usually pay a lot of attention to workout times and such because as has been talked about many times before on this site, if you didn't see the work or even hear the trainer discuss it you can't really know much about the work. The raw times of the workouts don't usually reveal a lot.

That being said, I'm curious about how people look at works that appear unusual for a trainer's typical pattern. I ask here because Justin Phillip's recent work seem unusually quick for an Asmussen horse training for a route.

Do people think that means anything because it breaks with a trainer's typical approach? Do you consider that a good sign? Or maybe a bad one? Or....is it completely meaningless.

Just curious.
Without having seen it and just generalizing.
As long as the horse wasn't running off on the rider I look at it as a good sign. A Horse that is training faster than their trainers usual, makes me think he is sitting on a big effort. Unless of course it was a Funny Cide pre-Belmont type effort.
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Old 02-19-2011, 12:06 PM
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I'm going with Tapit Dancer in the Rachel Alexandra and Mucho Macho Man in the Risen Star.

Annual Update (20-1 ML) looks interesting in the 11th. Maker sends him out for his second start, and his debut was okay. Lanerie, who has been riding much better than normal, is aboard again. Annual Update is owned by Twin Creeks, which has Mission Impazible in the Mineshaft.
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