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Old 02-04-2011, 12:40 PM
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Face Palm just based on where you have Bid alone.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:45 PM
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Face Palm just based on where you have Bid alone.
As I said...Just one guy's opinion.
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Old 02-04-2011, 12:58 PM
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The Bid at 8???????????? what r u drinking? opinions are fine, but basic knowledge of racing puts him in top 5. IMO he is number 1
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:21 PM
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The Bid at 8???????????? what r u drinking? opinions are fine, but basic knowledge of racing puts him in top 5. IMO he is number 1
As I said, it's easy to be critical...very few folks rate the Bid that high but your opinion is as good as mine. Don't question my knowledge of racing history simply because I disagree with you. The Bid had a wonderful 4yo season and finished 30/26-2-1. Obviously a great horse but same can be said for the 7 I rate above him.
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:38 PM
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I just don't know how you can rate a horse #2 that raced predominately in Hungary and Austria in the late 1800's. Sure, she was undefeated, but lots of walkovers and weak competition.
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:42 PM
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I just don't know how you can rate a horse #2 that raced predominately in Hungary and Austria in the late 1800's. Sure, she was undefeated, but lots of walkovers and weak competition.
Fair question...54/54-0-0, raced all over Europe actually and routinely destroyed males, raced all distances from short sprints to marathon distances, carried over 160 poinds and spotted her male foes 20-30 pounds. Certainly in a class of her own during her career...level of competition is always a question...again. a judgement call.
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:54 PM
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I understand why you posted this so I will bite. Zenyatta at 11? I am not sure she is the 11th best filly of all time if we are going to include horses from the 1800's. I'm anxious to hear why she is better than Kelso or Dr Fager who doesnt even make the top 20????
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:56 PM
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Fair question...54/54-0-0, raced all over Europe actually and routinely destroyed males, raced all distances from short sprints to marathon distances, carried over 160 poinds and spotted her male foes 20-30 pounds. Certainly in a class of her own during her career...level of competition is always a question...again. a judgement call.
A lot easier to make judgement calls on horses that someone in our lifetime may have actually saw.
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