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Old 02-03-2011, 07:55 AM
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While I am not disputing that the Dome was a very poor hitters park I'm not sure who you are referring to that looked outstanding only in Houston? IMO the frustrating thing about being an Astros fan during that era was that they werent able to develop that many really good, biased aided pitchers and take advantage of the park effect.
I agree that the Astros haven't developed anyone, and that hasn't changed after the move from the Dome.

Jose Lima, Mike Hampton and Darryl Kile all dropped off as soon as they left Houston. Lima was the most disastrous as the new stadium (then known as Enron Field) was totally in his head. Hampton left and went to Colorado before being injured 347 times and Kile had two horrible years in Colorado before going to St. Louis and improving prior to his untimely death. Perhaps the difference between the Astrodome and Coors Field got to them but they definitely dropped off. Nonetheless, I love the horse's name and hope you'll show up with a hat from the rainbow jersey era at his debut.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:32 AM
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Does anyone have a way of getting word to him that a horse was named after him? I think the average person would want to know that.

I found a FB page about him, but couldn't find a number or email to him directly.

http://www.facebook.com/hunterpence9...5479542?v=wall
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:16 PM
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Does anyone have a way of getting word to him that a horse was named after him? I think the average person would want to know that.

I found a FB page about him, but couldn't find a number or email to him directly.

http://www.facebook.com/hunterpence9...5479542?v=wall
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:14 PM
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I agree that the Astros haven't developed anyone, and that hasn't changed after the move from the Dome.

Jose Lima, Mike Hampton and Darryl Kile all dropped off as soon as they left Houston. Lima was the most disastrous as the new stadium (then known as Enron Field) was totally in his head. Hampton left and went to Colorado before being injured 347 times and Kile had two horrible years in Colorado before going to St. Louis and improving prior to his untimely death. Perhaps the difference between the Astrodome and Coors Field got to them but they definitely dropped off. Nonetheless, I love the horse's name and hope you'll show up with a hat from the rainbow jersey era at his debut.
I may wear my JR Richard throwback

Hampton never had that one outstanding season again but he pitched very well for the Mets his first season post-Houston and also had a really good season in Atlanta as well. Outside of the year Kile won 19 for Hou he was about as good for St Louis as he was in Hou. Lima was Lima.

The Astros have done a horrific job over the years developing pitching. Out of the best pitchers to play for them (many hardly household names or really even any good):
Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, JR Richard, Mike Scott, Don Wilson, Larry Dierker, Roy Oswalt, Brad Lidge, Billy Wagner, Mike Cuellar, Shane Reynolds, Turk Farrell, Mike Hampton, Dave Smith, Bob Knepper, Joe Niekro, Randy Johnson (Hey it was only 11 games but he did win 10 of them), Andy Pettitte, Valverde...

Only Wagner, Dierker, Wilson, Richard, Smith, Oswalt, Reynolds and Lidge were drafted or 1st signed (pre-draft) by Houston. Of those 3 of them were drafted/signed in the 60's and 3 are strictly closers. So in close to 50 years of Houson Astros pitching development, that is what they have to offer despite having one of the best pitching parks in modern baseball history. Oh boy. I may have regurgitate the Pirates draft record thread to make me feel better

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Old 02-03-2011, 11:59 PM
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I may wear my JR Richard throwback

Hampton never had that one outstanding season again but he pitched very well for the Mets his first season post-Houston and also had a really good season in Atlanta as well. Outside of the year Kile won 19 for Hou he was about as good for St Louis as he was in Hou. Lima was Lima.

The Astros have done a horrific job over the years developing pitching. Out of the best pitchers to play for them (many hardly household names or really even any good):
Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, JR Richard, Mike Scott, Don Wilson, Larry Dierker, Roy Oswalt, Brad Lidge, Billy Wagner, Mike Cuellar, Shane Reynolds, Turk Farrell, Mike Hampton, Dave Smith, Bob Knepper, Joe Niekro, Randy Johnson (Hey it was only 11 games but he did win 10 of them), Andy Pettitte, Valverde...
You overlooked Joe Sambito.
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:10 PM
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You overlooked Joe Sambito.
I guess I should have put him in there
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:57 PM
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good enuf place 4 this...
did any1 see sanford and son yesterday?
where fred bought "General Lee" and then found out the "g" in the pps meant he had had a horseterectomy(TM)????

then put pants on him to sell him and the buyer knew he was a grand ole warrior and bought him to live out his days in desun???
it was a VERY funny episode...ie...4 types of tickets...win, place, show and tear up


so glad i caught it


We're all glad..
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Great Name.

Wiki says Wynn's bat had a lot of "pop." Hoping the same for our boy.
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