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Old 01-25-2011, 07:11 PM
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How so? They were private ships and private employees and private owners of those ships.

The law authorized the creation of a government operated marine hospital service and mandated that privately employed sailors be required to purchase health care insurance. Via a tax on their employers (the employee had to pay - no choice - out of their pay, and the employer forwarded it to the government)

Private business had to pay a tax to the government, which then provided health care. Pretty simple.

The point is: the founding fathers were far more "liberal" than not. They were "elite", "over-educated", "European-influenced", and didn't think much of the bible (to paraphrase Bill Maher). No matter what the Tea Baggers selectively try to co-opt.

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Except the merchant sailors were treated at Fed hospitals and before they were treated the payments via-worker-employer-government were confirmed. No exemptions. Again how is this remotely close to ObamaCare? How do you think the founding fathers would deal with illegals? Terrrorists? Those who simply weren't merchant seaman with current policies?

You may be finally may be on to something.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:24 PM
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Again how is this remotely close to ObamaCare? :
Nobody said it was anything like the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. That's not why it was posted.

Try to keep up.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:45 PM
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Nobody said it was anything like the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. That's not why it was posted.

Try to keep up.

I’m all good with insuring a merchant seaman a health insurance policy for 1% of his income. Especially considering the terrorists threats we face from muslim ship workers and his possible role as eyes.

Your original post has nothing to do, even remotely, close to ObamaCare. What did the founding fathers think about pre-existing conditions, spouses and dependants? Not to mention neighbors, area bums, illegals etc, etc etc...........:
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:45 PM
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Your original post has nothing to do, even remotely, close to ObamaCare.
That's right. That's what I just said. If you read why I posted it, when I posted it, it's not because it's like the PPACA.
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:01 PM
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BTW what was the tax % of income that caused our country to fight for independency? Wouldn't that have been a far more appropriate statement regarding the founding fathers rather some BS about a 1% tax on sailors? Good actually lame effort though. Landslide LMAO
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:59 PM
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BTW what was the tax % of income that caused our country to fight for independency? Wouldn't that have been a far more appropriate statement regarding the founding fathers rather some BS about a 1% tax on sailors? Good actually lame effort though. Landslide LMAO
Wow. You still don't understand why this thread was posted. Did you read the first post? You are unable to comprehend the words?
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Wow. You still don't understand why this thread was posted. Did you read the first post? You are unable to comprehend the words?
You're a fool. You titled the thread "Founding Fathers liked taxed Government Health Care." and then post a story about a 1% tax on private seaman because of the risks involved in their jobs, bringing in diseases etc. If they 'liked' it so much they would have surely expanded the program to include all? No?

Even giving you the benefit of the doubt, if in fact they did like it, they didn't after trying it with the seaman.

Nice try again though.
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