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![]() Now she's 52... these things won't settle down and will update by the minute until we have lots of votes at which point we should hopefully be somewhat closer to reality and it'll be harder for horses to make sudden moves.
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![]() I think that the book Champions should be required reading for new fans of the game. All I ask for is perspective.
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Ruffian as the 5th best horse of all-time is simply nonsense. Zenyatta as the 14th best horse of all-time is lunacy. Personal Ensign is very overrated at #16. Miesque - Great turf miler - no business at #18. Goldikova - Great turf miler - simply too high at #32 Gamely is way too high at #33 Susan's Girl is way too high at #34 Lady's Secret way too high at #36 And there are about a dozen more. |
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![]() Of course I disagree with a lot of the rankings on that list - but it was still a very respectable list.
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![]() Any list that doesn't have Jazil, Pioneer of the Nile and, Zenyatta on the podium; is simply laughable....
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![]() I think Twilight Tear definitely deserves to be in the top 100. Same with Busher and perhaps Galorrette among fillies of that era. 52 might be a little high though, that is true.
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![]() Seattle Slew at #2 and A. P. Indy at #22 are wildly overrated.
I'm not sure A. P. Indy belongs in the top 100. In fact, lets be honest, he doesn't. The success both horses had as stallions is being factored in to the ratings. |
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![]() Northern Dancer - currently #9 - is another example of an outstanding race horse being overrated because he was a very successful sire. Northern Dancer was 3rd by 6 lengths to Quadrangle in the Belmont Stakes at 4/5 odds in his final North American start.
Quadrangle did come back to win the Travers and a lot of good races that year - but was trounced by both 7-year-old Kelso and Gun Bow at 1 1/4 miles in the Woodward - albeit he was 25 lengths in front of the 4th and 5th place finishers. He was also 3rd to Kelso beaten 11.5 lengths in that years Jockey Club Gold Cup. That time he was 16 lengths clear of several beaten horses behind him. More interestingly though Quote:
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![]() After watching things settle to some norm after the early voting distortions, it would still be interesting to see how many votes were cast for each. One of the real problems as others have noted, is that it's a popularity contest. New fans without historical perspective or familiarity of all (or most) of the horses vote for a handful and move on (the Zenyatta fans also throw in a 3 for Rachel Alexandra and Blame). If all you know is Barbaro, Curlin, Zenyatta, and Secretariat, you're likely to selectively vote for just those and give them all 10's. If you go through the list and try to rate each, you end up placing much lower numbers on the likes of Barbaro, Curlin, Bernardini, AP Indy when you compare them to Count Fleet, Citation, Bid, Forego, Damascus, and Dr. Fager who were all time greats from another generation.
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