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Old 01-21-2011, 11:13 AM
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If you look up 'Luck = Residue of Design' you'll actually find Branch Rickey.

Is every major gambler obligated to bet on horse racing? I'd guess that the biggest players in our game aren't that keen on being profiled by '60 Minutes'...

And don't all of us win by understanding odds and doing homework when we win?
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Craps is less beatable than racing.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:20 AM
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Not really. max odds, 2 come bets and 15% of your loses back from casino make it about a coin flip. Ask Phil Ivey
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:22 AM
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If you look up 'Luck = Residue of Design' you'll actually find Branch Rickey.

Is every major gambler obligated to bet on horse racing? I'd guess that the biggest players in our game aren't that keen on being profiled by '60 Minutes'...

And don't all of us win by understanding odds and doing homework when we win?
How many people do you know that attempt and realize a "living" from exclusively betting on Horses?
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:28 AM
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The amount of money Walters plays on sports would make it impossible to make money in horse racing. The parimutuel system would kill his odds, whereas in sports betting the number is set when the bet is made.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:31 AM
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How many people do you know that attempt and realize a "living" from exclusively betting on Horses?
Plenty..
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Plenty..
without rebates?
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:19 PM
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without rebates?
The serious professional horseplayers, that are akin to pro sports bettors as brought up in this discussion, all get rebates of some kind.
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The serious professional horseplayers, that are akin to pro sports bettors aws brought up in this discussion, all get rebates of some kind.
Which should show that takeout levels are too high.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:44 PM
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Which should show that takeout levels are too high.
It shows, that as in any business, volume earns discounts.
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:32 PM
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The serious professional horseplayers, that are akin to pro sports bettors as brought up in this discussion, all get rebates of some kind.
Can the average 1-2 a week better than be able to make money?
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Plenty..
You know plenty of people that call the racetrack their job? You know plenty of people that's sole means of support is gambling of TB races daily? This is awesome and I am somewhat dissapointed that we haven't had the oppotunity to hear from these people on ATR's. Everyday we hear from guys who have written books on handicapping or guys employeed by racetracks etc. They are typically great listens and take their WORK extremely seriously. I really hope some of the "PLENTY" of gamblers can get on the air and tell us what it is like to grab the DRF each day and hope that a paycheck is to be had. Talk about great radio, that would be awesome the daily life of a professional horse gamblier who beats the takeout for 100plusk a year
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Talk about great radio, that would be awesome the daily life of a professional horse gamblier who beats the takeout for 100plusk a year
I'll see who might be willing to come on. You aren't talking about people whose behavior is generally of a publicity seeking nature.
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I'll see who might be willing to come on. You aren't talking about people whose behavior is generally of a publicity seeking nature.
This will be great, people who declare themselves as professional gamblers to the US government, pay income tax. I see an eclispe in your future!
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:12 PM
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This will be great, people who declare themselves as professional gamblers to the US government, pay income tax. I see an eclispe in your future!
Thank you Frederick, but as I said the other day, if the Bobby Frankel Tribute didn't garner it in '09, I don't think there's anything I can do that will. Didn't even submit an entry for '10.
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I'll see who might be willing to come on. You aren't talking about people whose behavior is generally of a publicity seeking nature.
Ok Steve, Ok. I'll be happy to come on your show.











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I'll see who might be willing to come on. You aren't talking about people whose behavior is generally of a publicity seeking nature.
That would be a great show. I would think purely on a $/hour bases it would end up more profitable wearing an orange or blue apron for most.
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How many people do you know that attempt and realize a "living" from exclusively betting on Horses?
How do you think DrugS affords so many socks? Duhh
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