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Old 01-19-2011, 07:00 PM
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Riding less horses and making as much money? Understandable. However, does that mean he should be recognized as the Eclipse award winning rider?

You should REALLY think about that before answering.

Not if they were just everyday races, but the races he happened to win? Yes, I guess I put a lot of stock in rising to the occasion.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:03 PM
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Not if they were just everyday races, but the races he happened to win? Yes, I guess I put a lot of stock in rising to the occasion.
Not me. I think everyday riding counts a great deal. It's easier to " rise to the occasion " especially with the benefit of not having put it out there race after race....and day after day.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:08 PM
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Take Ramon out of NYRA circuit and have him follow the same journey, Johnny V, Gomez, Castellano, Desormaux, Leparoux does throughout the year and you will quickly see how great of an average jockey he is. I believe last year he was 1 or 2 for 22 mounts at gulfstream last year.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:14 PM
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Take Ramon out of NYRA circuit and have him follow the same journey, Johnny V, Gomez, Castellano, Desormaux, Leparoux does throughout the year and you will quickly see how great of an average jockey he is. I believe last year he was 1 or 2 for 22 mounts at gulfstream last year.
Yeah, he gets embarassed at Saratoga every year against those same jockeys. Leparoux and Desormeaux really schooled him at Belmont this fall too.
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Old 01-20-2011, 01:14 PM
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Leparoux and Desormeaux really schooled him at Belmont this fall too.
while there is no doubt ramon is well deserving of the eclipse and all his accolades, your argument above is a bit skewed, considering he (ramon) had 225 mounts compared to 57 for leparoux and kent d missed most of the meet with injury (10 mounts).

saying he schooled them at belmont would be like saying they schooled ramon at keeneland this fall.

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Old 01-19-2011, 07:32 PM
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Take Ramon out of NYRA circuit and have him follow the same journey, Johnny V, Gomez, Castellano, Desormaux, Leparoux does throughout the year and you will quickly see how great of an average jockey he is. I believe last year he was 1 or 2 for 22 mounts at gulfstream last year.
He gave Winslow Homer a tremendous ride to win the Holy Bull last year.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. If you are looking to knock Ramon you should argue what a great jockey he is. That would, perhaps, give some of us pause.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:37 PM
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i don't wanna be accused of posting too late on this thread for the children to not have time to reply so i will reiterate what i said 27 hours ago...to judge who is more deserving of the eclipse you just need to evaluate who moves their horselets(TM) up more
over gogo...that is ramon
over everyone...that is pval
I think you misunderstood my post in the other thread. It's not when you post, it is what and how you post that gives many people a headache.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:04 PM
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Take Ramon out of NYRA circuit and have him follow the same journey, Johnny V, Gomez, Castellano, Desormaux, Leparoux does throughout the year and you will quickly see how great of an average jockey he is. I believe last year he was 1 or 2 for 22 mounts at gulfstream last year.
Wow...
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