A Great Day For Racing

[trackrat59]

Here's what I was thinking about while driving to work this morning listening to Steve's replay of yesterdays show talking about the HOY outcome.

If Zen gave us so many new fans, and a big fan base for Zen is in CA, and CA racing is doing so poorly, what's up with that? Has CA noticed any sort of positive impact due to the Zen factor? If not, when will the Zen fans start showing up at the tracks? Especially in CA.

Not being a smart a$$ here. Just really started to think about this question.

I'm not familiar with CA racing being on the east coast. Maybe I've missed something.

[jimmy the T]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

Here's what I was thinking about while driving to work this morning listening to Steve's replay of yesterdays show talking about the HOY outcome.

If Zen gave us so many new fans, and a big fan base for Zen is in CA, and CA racing is doing so poorly, what's up with that? Has CA noticed any sort of positive impact due to the Zen factor? If not, when will the Zen fans start showing up at the tracks? Especially in CA.

Not being a smart a$$ here. Just really started to think about this question.

I'm not familiar with CA racing being on the east coast. Maybe I've missed something.

there is an organized boycott of Cali racing going on due to increased takeout.

[jimmy the T]

playersboycott.org I still bet Santa Anita. How can anyone gauge what impact she will have on the future attendance? I hope the families who
came out in 2010 for Z find a new star and return in 2011 and so on.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by jimmy the T

there is an organized boycott of Cali racing going on due to increased takeout.

Yeah right. I'm 38 and have been playing for years and don't consider the takeout when I have a chance to play. But all the new racing fans, many with their pretty teal and pink signs who came to see the dancing horsey, who mind you are going to do so much to help the game are now boycotting the track because of the incresed takeout.

[NTamm1215]

Mainstream media and society took so kindly to Zenyatta's overwhelmingly generous connections, her impeccable dance moves, and her wonderful story that there was nary a mention of her HOTY crown on any major news outlet in the sporting world. There was a headline yesterday morning on ESPN about Annie Duke starting a new pro poker league. There was nothing on NBC Sports, as Justin Dew mentioned, and they only televise 2/3 of the Triple Crown.

The stuff about her creating new fans and being so meaningful to the game is the latest in a line of disingenuous b.ullshit that we've been fed by the people around her for 2 years. The people who have any concept of this game and how to grow it know that 20,000 screaming sign waving fanatics are not going to prop up our dying sport unless they open their wallets and make a wager. How anyone continues to miss this is beyond me.

I can only pray it's over. The wrong decision was made, but I'm ready to accept it if it means we're done talking about it. I can only hope that a horse comes along and wins the Derby and Preakness so that he/she can be the main focus of the racing world and Zenyatta will return to where she belongs now, in the past.

[jimmy the T]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Mainstream media and society took so kindly to Zenyatta's overwhelmingly generous connections, her impeccable dance moves, and her wonderful story that there was nary a mention of her HOTY crown on any major news outlet in the sporting world. There was a headline yesterday morning on ESPN about Annie Duke starting a new pro poker league. There was nothing on NBC Sports, as Justin Dew mentioned, and they only televise 2/3 of the Triple Crown.

The stuff about her creating new fans and being so meaningful to the game is the latest in a line of disingenuous b.ullshit that we've been fed by the people around her for 2 years. The people who have any concept of this game and how to grow it know that 20,000 screaming sign waving fanatics are not going to prop up our dying sport unless they open their wallets and make a wager. How anyone continues to miss this is beyond me.

I can only pray it's over. The wrong decision was made, but I'm ready to accept it if it means we're done talking about it. I can only hope that a horse comes along and wins the Derby and Preakness so that he/she can be the main focus of the racing world and Zenyatta will return to where she belongs now, in the past.

Can you answer me 3 questions mr negativity, How many screaming sign waving fanatics showed up at a horse race for any other horse last year? And why are you praying its over? Isn't the buzz of Z good for racing?

you left off roll.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jimmy the T

Can you answer me 3 questions mr negativity, How many screaming sign waving fanatics showed up at a horse race for any other horse last year? And why are you praying its over? Isn't the buzz of Z good for racing?

Where's the buzz? Where did you find stories about Zenyatta winning HOTY yesterday morning aside from racing-related sites? Wasn't part of Zenyatta's "platform" for winning the award because she was some revolutionary who brought racing back to the forefront and made it a part of the sporting world again?

Having fans show up for racing does not mean the horse deserved the HOTY trophy, but you among many others have vastly overrated her achievements and made it possible.

[jimmy the T]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Where's the buzz? Where did you find stories about Zenyatta winning HOTY yesterday morning aside from racing-related sites? Wasn't part of Zenyatta's "platform" for winning the award because she was some revolutionary who brought racing back to the forefront and made it a part of the sporting world again?

Having fans show up for racing does not mean the horse deserved the HOTY trophy, but you among many others have vastly overrated her achievements and made it possible.

WOW - thanks for answering my questions LMAO. OK OBVIOUSLY YOU CANT FOCUS ON SIMPLE QUESTIONS. no problem. but my original or any of my posts have Never said Z deservered HOTY. My points are purely trying to show the positive side for the sport not the negative side as your attacks seem to be focused on the 'TROPHY AND THE VOTING'

[MaTH716]

Do trainers count?

[gaut10]

not being recognized by ESPN is probably a good thing these days. ESPN's a joke. it s an "inside edition/current affair" tabloid show. Crap like brett favre's wristwatch "scandal" and kevin garnet/charlie villaneuva's twitter battle are lead stories.

they show more highlights of poker and MMA (neither are sports) than boxing. nothing like seeing two guys mount each other in full guard for 15 minutes.

the marketing arm (NTRA) of thoroughbred racing does a poor job.

sorry, i couldnt resist taking a shot at espn.

[miraja2]

In the end there may be no more fitting way for Zenyatta's career to end than for her to lose an actual race....but then to win some phony award. She can now go out on top....because her supporters have manufactured it that way. Her legions of worshipers succeeded in doing what she could not, which is apropos given that they were always a more powerful force in print, on message boards, and on the airwaves than she ever was on the track. Congratulations to them.

Her fans succeeded in at least one other thing as well....they made me despise a good horse that I would have otherwise liked to enjoy. Congratulations again.

[jimmy the T]

Originally Posted by miraja2

In the end there may be no more fitting way for Zenyatta's career to end than for her to lose an actual race....but then to win some phony award. She can now go out on top....because her supporters have manufactured it that way. Her legions of worshipers succeeded in doing what she could not, which is apropos given that they were always a more powerful force in print, on message boards, and on the airwaves than she ever was on the track. Congratulations to them.

Her fans succeeded in at least one other thing as well....they made me despise a good horse that I would have otherwise liked to enjoy. Congratulations again.

You must hate 'all' sports teams because (imo) screaming adults dressed in
stupid gear, acting immature is worse than what the z fans did.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by miraja2

In the end there may be no more fitting way for Zenyatta's career to end than for her to lose an actual race....but then to win some phony award. She can now go out on top....because her supporters have manufactured it that way. Her legions of worshipers succeeded in doing what she could not, which is apropos given that they were always a more powerful force in print, on message boards, and on the airwaves than she ever was on the track. Congratulations to them.

Her fans succeeded in at least one other thing as well....they made me despise a good horse that I would have otherwise liked to enjoy. Congratulations again.

Good Post! I fully agree with your last comment.Did the same thing to me also.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I can only pray it's over. The wrong decision was made, but I'm ready to accept it if it means we're done talking about it. I can only hope that a horse comes along and wins the Derby and Preakness so that he/she can be the main focus of the racing world and Zenyatta will return to where she belongs now, in the past.

You're the one keeping the hate alive. Rock on.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

You're the one keeping the hate alive. Rock on.

Thanks for keeping tabs on what I'm doing. I appreciate it. Why you even brought up the word hate is baffling.

[slotdirt]

Ok, I watch ESPN relatively regularly, and have never seen MMA highlights in my life. Is that just me?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

You're the one keeping the hate alive. Rock on.

Hate?