Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Dee Tee Stables
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-10-2011, 07:52 PM
Princess Doreen's Avatar
Princess Doreen Princess Doreen is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: VA and Saratoga
Posts: 1,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heels1989 View Post
Redboard winner at Penn National this evening. Gate to wire.
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.
__________________
I l Cigar, Medaglia d'Oro, Big Brown, Curlin, Rachel Alexandra, Silver Charm, First Samurai, Sumwonlovesyou, Lloydobler, Ausable Chasm, AND Prince Will I Am

"Be daring, be different, be impractical, be anything that will assert integrity of purpose and imaginative vision against the play-it-safers, the creatures of the commonplace, the slaves of the ordinary.” Cecil Beaton
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-10-2011, 07:54 PM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess Doreen View Post
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.
I feel the same way
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-10-2011, 08:47 PM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess Doreen View Post
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.
At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-10-2011, 10:16 PM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav View Post
At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.
I don't she meant anything by her statement.......but, thanks for the input, some of us know the game
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-11-2011, 09:55 AM
phystech's Avatar
phystech phystech is offline
Narragansett Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav View Post
At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.
Couldn't agree more with your message and I'm glad you wrote it.

And, if I may add - even after a horse gets claimed from a partnership/trainer, it's ok for that horse to go on and do well for his/her new owners!!! As the former owner, I've never been embarrassed if the horse makes some money and wins a few races for the new owner. It's OK!!

Turning over horses can be profitable and no partnership or owner can survive by constantly losing money.....

Last edited by phystech : 01-11-2011 at 10:10 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-11-2011, 11:35 AM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by phystech View Post
Couldn't agree more with your message and I'm glad you wrote it.

And, if I may add - even after a horse gets claimed from a partnership/trainer, it's ok for that horse to go on and do well for his/her new owners!!! As the former owner, I've never been embarrassed if the horse makes some money and wins a few races for the new owner. It's OK!!

Turning over horses can be profitable and no partnership or owner can survive by constantly losing money.....
Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-11-2011, 11:44 AM
Princess Doreen's Avatar
Princess Doreen Princess Doreen is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: VA and Saratoga
Posts: 1,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff View Post
Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game
Somebody's saying I'm wrong? LOL! Get on line. I understand the game - just disappointed he's no longer in the partnership even if he's just a "nickel claimer". He's running, he's sound, he's making some money. Continued good journeys for him. Looking forward to hearing about a replacement in the partnership.
__________________
I l Cigar, Medaglia d'Oro, Big Brown, Curlin, Rachel Alexandra, Silver Charm, First Samurai, Sumwonlovesyou, Lloydobler, Ausable Chasm, AND Prince Will I Am

"Be daring, be different, be impractical, be anything that will assert integrity of purpose and imaginative vision against the play-it-safers, the creatures of the commonplace, the slaves of the ordinary.” Cecil Beaton
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-11-2011, 02:37 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess Doreen View Post
He's running, he's sound, he's making some money. Continued good journeys for him. Looking forward to hearing about a replacement in the partnership.
I always wonder how people know this?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-11-2011, 02:58 PM
MaTH716's Avatar
MaTH716 MaTH716 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 11,438
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
I always wonder how people know this?
Some people just know everything.

Fortunately for me I married one of them.

__________________
Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-11-2011, 04:16 PM
Princess Doreen's Avatar
Princess Doreen Princess Doreen is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: VA and Saratoga
Posts: 1,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
I always wonder how people know this?
He's run at least 10 times since April and no report of injuries or problems were reported to the partnership.
__________________
I l Cigar, Medaglia d'Oro, Big Brown, Curlin, Rachel Alexandra, Silver Charm, First Samurai, Sumwonlovesyou, Lloydobler, Ausable Chasm, AND Prince Will I Am

"Be daring, be different, be impractical, be anything that will assert integrity of purpose and imaginative vision against the play-it-safers, the creatures of the commonplace, the slaves of the ordinary.” Cecil Beaton
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-11-2011, 01:22 PM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff View Post
Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game
You understand the claiming part of the game, or all the costs that go into the game?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-11-2011, 04:56 PM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav View Post
You understand the claiming part of the game, or all the costs that go into the game?
Explain it to me........ yes, a matter a fact I do!
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-11-2011, 02:36 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess Doreen View Post
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.
Wouldn't this be classified as a redboard?
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.