AZ Congresswoman in critical condition after shooting

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Ah, yes, freedom of speech is very much not in favor by some here at DT.

Danzig already pointed out how ludicrous your statement was here, but seriously....what the hell are you talking about? The first amendment right to "freedom of speech" protects citizens from the government depriving a citizen of the right of "freedom of speech." Do you actually think it also protects you from being called crazy because of something you posted on a horse racing message board? You don't really think that....do you?

[miraja2]

Like most people I have no freaking idea what motivated the shooter. It might be worth considering however that when you get to the fringes of the anti-government movement, the line between "left-wing" and "right-wing" get rather blurry. Radicals often move pretty fluidly from hardcore marxism (the "left") to hardcore anarchism (the "right") in their attempts to bring down the government (or whatever their personal motive might be). Labels are therefore often inaccurate or misleading, and in my opinion make it even more ridiculous for anyone on either side to try to score cheap partisan political points off of the incident.

[fpsoxfan]

Politicizing this is simply a joke. People died at the hands of a gutless nut!
He is another example of a person who probably received a large amount of undeserved self-esteem builders. This guy had red flags all over him as he could not cope with life in general. Hopefully, justice will give this man what he really needs. My thoughts are with the families of the innocent victims in this tragedy.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Politicizing this is simply a joke. People died at the hands of a gutless nut!
He is another example of a person who probably received a large amount of undeserved self-esteem builders. This guy had red flags all over him as he could not cope with life in general. Hopefully, justice will give this man what he really needs. My thoughts are with the families of the innocent victims in this tragedy.

Its pathetic that the media is using this for political advantage. The guy was a psycho, not a "tea partier" or "progressive"

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Danzig already pointed out how ludicrous your statement was here, but seriously....what the hell are you talking about? The first amendment right to "freedom of speech" protects citizens from the government depriving a citizen of the right of "freedom of speech." Do you actually think it also protects you from being called crazy because of something you posted on a horse racing message board? You don't really think that....do you?

Oh, please - I thought the eyeroll icon was being overused, but I see I should have included it in my response. Sure people are free to say what they wish. I would think, however, that a difference of opinion would be followed by civil discourse rather than labeling someone nuts or full of it because they have a differing opinion - even on a horse racing board.

[ArlJim78]

It's high time to quell the hateful violent rhetoric. Let's start at the top.

"I think it's tempting not to negotiate with hostage takers, unless the hostage gets harmed. In this case the hostage is the American people and I was not willing to see them get harmed," Obama on keeping taxes from increasing, December 6, 2010

"A Republican majority in Congress would mean "hand-to-hand combat" on Capitol Hill for the next two years, threatening policies Democrats have enacted to stabilize the economy," Obama, October 6, 2010

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama in July 2008

"Here's the problem: It's almost like they've got -- they've got a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger." Obama on banks, March 2009

"I want you to argue with them and get in their face!" Barack Obama, September 2008

“We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.” Obama to Latinos, October 2010

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” Obama on ACORN Mobs, March 2010

“We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“ Obama on the private sector, June 2010

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

It's high time to quell the hateful violent rhetoric. Let's start at the top.

You owe someone an assist for this one, no?

[randallscott35]

More people need to be armed and carry concealed. The answer is more guns.

[somerfrost]

My thoughts and prayers to the victims of this senseless violence and their families. We can debate "fault" another day and to be sure, there is plenty to go around from all sides. I'm not ready to declare the shooter a "nut" just yet, lets see what unfolds...not everyone who acts in a reckless, vicious manner can escape judgement as a "nut"....there is such a thing as evil.

[ArlJim78]

unfortunately not everyone on the left shares your wisdom Somer. before the blood on the pavement had even cooled the media was in lockstep that the blame was to be shared by Sarah Palin, Glen Beck and the tea party. nevermind that the shooter had stalked the congresswoman for years and that there is no connection to any of the above.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

My thoughts and prayers to the victims of this senseless violence and their families. We can debate "fault" another day and to be sure, there is plenty to go around from all sides. I'm not ready to declare the shooter a "nut" just yet, lets see what unfolds...not everyone who acts in a reckless, vicious manner can escape judgement as a "nut"....there is such a thing as evil.

this guy was obviously insane. evil and insane

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

My thoughts and prayers to the victims of this senseless violence and their families. We can debate "fault" another day and to be sure, there is plenty to go around from all sides. I'm not ready to declare the shooter a "nut" just yet, lets see what unfolds...not everyone who acts in a reckless, vicious manner can escape judgement as a "nut"....there is such a thing as evil.

he Somer... I was told you were dead. Congratulations on being alive.

I guess

Yes, now that the "nut" has been proven not to be of the Tea Party, Sarah Palin or anything pro-Constitution lets stop talking about blame.


shameless dems... accuse people of rhetoric while using rhetoric

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

It's high time to quell the hateful violent rhetoric. Let's start at the top.

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” Obama on ACORN Mobs, March 2010

and i thought to myself: "wtf? there were acorn mobs?"

it took me 30 seconds to google the quote and it's context:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/us...cs/21memo.html

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry. I’m angry,” Mr. Obama said, his voice reaching a peak seven days after learning of the bonuses given to employees of the American International Group. “What I want to do, though, is channel our anger in a constructive way.”

good contribution, jim. well researched as usual.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” Obama on ACORN Mobs, March 2010

and i thought to myself: "wtf? there were acorn mobs?"

it took me 30 seconds to google the quote and it's context:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/us...cs/21memo.html

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry. I’m angry,” Mr. Obama said, his voice reaching a peak seven days after learning of the bonuses given to employees of the American International Group. “What I want to do, though, is channel our anger in a constructive way.”

good contribution, jim. well researched as usual.

White Race Advantage is an amazing "horse" sight..