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Old 12-27-2010, 07:33 PM
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I'll put up one more fact. I got abused for comparing Lewis to Cowher so I'll compare him to Wyche. In 1991 Wyche was completing his 8th season as head coach of the Bengals. He had a record of 61-66 and was coming off a 3-13 season. He had made the playoffs two times. His first time he went to the Super Bowl as his starting qb didn't tear up his knee on his first post season pass that year. He lost his first playoff game in his 7th season as head coach at home. So did Lewis.

Through 8 seasons, Wyche 61-66, Lewis 60-66-1

Playoff appearances, Wyche 2, Lewis 2

Playoff wins, Wyche 2, Lewis 0

They decided to fire Wyche, the mediocrity...it got worse...much, much worse for the Bengals until they hired their next mediocrity, Marvin Lewis. The Bengals had 7 playoff appearances in their first 35 years. Marvin's 2 in 8 is ahead of the curve.

Maybe these aren't facts. I consider them facts. firing the mediocrity can produce much, much worse results than the mediocrity.
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Old 12-27-2010, 07:41 PM
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Maybe these aren't facts. I consider them facts. firing the mediocrity can produce much, much worse results than the mediocrity.
Or it can produce much better. There's always a risk when you fire a coach. But it's a move you have to make unless perpetual mediocrity is good enough for you.
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Old 12-27-2010, 07:45 PM
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Or it can produce much better. There's always a risk when you fire a coach. But it's a move you have to make unless perpetual mediocrity is good enough for you.
yes, the Browns couldn't get to the Super Bowl with Schottenheimer...4 years, 4 playoff appearances, 2 AFC championship games...not good enough. gotta make that next step, yes we do. Fired....next 7 years before the move to Baltimore...2 playoff appearances. I understand the logic for firing a guy like Lewis, I really do. I just don't agree with it. Until this year he had the team going the right way. I, personally would give him another year, most obviously wouldn't.
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Old 12-27-2010, 07:47 PM
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It's been fun. I think I lost again, but I hope I made at least one good point amongst the volumous crap I put out.
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yes, the Browns couldn't get to the Super Bowl with Schottenheimer...4 years, 4 playoff appearances, 2 AFC championship games...not good enough.
Once again, far better than what Lewis has produced and not the same situation.
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Once again, far better than what Lewis has produced and not the same situation.
But a case of a firing that didn't work out for the team.
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But a case of a firing that didn't work out for the team.
I'm sorry for your loss. And for Brady breaking one of Bernie Kosar's records.
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