Cliff Lee

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1971 Baltimore Orioles squad featured four pitchers who won 20 games each -- Jim Palmer (20-9, 20 CG), Pat Dobson (20-8, 18 CG), Dave McNally (21-5, 11 CG) and Mike Cuellar (20-9, 21 CG).

[slotdirt]

Come on, Antitrust. The 93 or 98 Braves had three HOF'ers. The 60's Dodgers had three HOF'ers. The 1971 Orioles had 20 game winners. Who on this staff is a HOF'er if their career ended today? Halladay, and that's it.

Could it become the best rotation ever? Maybe, but is it the best rotation ever? Not close yet.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Come on, Antitrust. The 93 or 98 Braves had three HOF'ers. The 60's Dodgers had three HOF'ers. The 1971 Orioles had 20 game winners. Who on this staff is a HOF'er if their career ended today? Halladay, and that's it.

Could it become the best rotation ever? Maybe, but is it the best rotation ever? Not close yet.

why cant you understand I didnt say it was the best ever... but ONE OF THE BEST EVER. on paper. right now. we obviously have to see how it plays out.

they could win the next three WS's and be the best ever. they could flame out and be 85 game winners and suck.


and the whole if their career ended today is stupid, because they have lots of prime years ahead of them. Lee, if he keeps up his pace for 4-5 more years, could be a legit HOF. Hamels is very young and has already done some awesome things, including a WS MVP. Oswalt has been the National League's most consistently good pitcher in the entire last decade.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

why cant you understand I didnt say it was the best ever... but ONE OF THE BEST EVER. on paper. right now. we obviously have to see how it plays out.

they could win the next three WS's and be the best ever. they could flame out and be 85 game winners and suck.

and the whole if their career ended today is stupid, because they have lots of prime years ahead of them. Lee, if he keeps up his pace for 4-5 more years, could be a legit HOF. Hamels is very young and has already done some awesome things, including a WS MVP. Oswalt has been the National League's most consistently good pitcher in the entire last decade.

just in case slot dirt is still having problems with the reading concept.

[Antitrust32]

I'd say Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale & Don Sutton rotation tops the Phillies also. easily. Koufax may be the greatest.