No Preakness in 2011??

[pointman]

Originally Posted by smartbid09

You can't change what tracks the triple crown is contested over!

If you move the Preakness Stakes to another track than there is no longer a Triple Crown to be won. Why? Because than you are changing the accomplishment of winning the triple crown. What the general public doesn't understand is that horses win 3 races in a row at 3 different race tracks all the time. But not all race track pose the same obstacles as Churchill, Pimlico and Belmont. The accomplishment of sweeping the triple crown is doing it over these three race tracks. These three races at their current distances over there current tracks test a horse in a way they could never be tested otherwise. Every race track has it's own unique obstacles for horses to overcome. The 11 super horses who swept the Triple Crown did so over the same three tracks while overcoming each individual tracks obstacles. If you move the Preakness Stakes to a new track than the a horse is no longer being tested in the same way as the previous 11 triple crown winners. Thus they are sweeping a new series.

Sure you COULD run the Preakness Stakes at another race track, but if a horse were to win the Derby at Churchill, The Belmont Stakes at Belmont Park, and the Preakness Stakes at, say, Santa Anita Park than that horse would have swept a different Triple Crown than the previous 11 did. That Horse would have been tested differently. The unique thing about running the races as they are now where they are now is that it urges a horse to be special. No horse has ever accidentally won the triple crown in it's current form.

Thorough out the history of the Triple Crown in America things have not always been a constant. For example at one time the Preakness Stakes was run before the Kentucky Derby. Other non-constants have been distances. When Sir Barton won the Kentucky Derby he did so by winning at a different distance than the race is currently held at. But one of the things that has been a constant is that the three triple crown races were always held at there current three tracks. You MUST sweep the crown at Churchill, Pimlico and Belmont! If not you have not been tested the same way as the horses who have previously won the triple crown.

The Belmont Stakes was run at Aqueduct from 1963 to 1967, a very different configuration than Belmont, which in no way diminished the series.

[tector]

Originally Posted by pointman

The Belmont Stakes was run at Aqueduct from 1963 to 1967, a very different configuration than Belmont, which in no way diminished the series.

Keep your inconvenient facts to yourself, buster.

I am reminded of a quote--attributed to either De Gaul or Clemenceau, no one can quite decide which--when he was told someone was "indispensable".

"The graveyards are filled with indispensable men."

And so it is with supposedly immortal sporting traditions.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

De Gaul? Clemenceau? usurped?

In a match-up with Kasept - I'd take Tector and the points.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

De Gaul? Clemenceau? usurped?

In a match-up with Kasept - I'd take Tector and the points.

Tector is the worlds sharpest mouthed Italian.

And a lawyer.

I think Tector would be giving points, not getting them.

[Indian Charlie]

Actually, that would be an interesting thread in Eso. Head to head DT matchups in debate skills.

I use the term 'debate' loosely.

For instance, DrugS -130 vs Joey Salvator +110

Sterling -110 vs TFF -110

CSC's opinion on one day -110 vs his opinion the next day -110

Coach Pants -200 vs Doreen +170

Etc.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Actually, that would be an interesting thread in Eso. Head to head DT matchups in debate skills.

I use the term 'debate' loosely.

For instance, DrugS -130 vs Joey Salvator +110

Sterling -110 vs TFF -110

CSC's opinion on one day -110 vs his opinion the next day -110

Coach Pants -200 vs Doreen +170

Etc.

Can we change debate to steel cage match?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

Can we change debate to steel cage match?

No.

Debate here would be far more gruesome.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Actually, that would be an interesting thread in Eso. Head to head DT matchups in debate skills.

I use the term 'debate' loosely.

For instance, DrugS -130 vs Joey Salvator +110

Sterling -110 vs TFF -110

CSC's opinion on one day -110 vs his opinion the next day -110

Coach Pants -200 vs Doreen +170

Etc.

The money poured in on DrugS so feverishly that they took it off the board.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I'm easily shady enough to load up on the price with Rock Hard Ten '85 - and throw the match.