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Originally Posted by Riot
 You can't live without your straw men, can you? Facts are facts in spite of who is publishing it. Lugar said what he said. Are you contesting that Lugar didn't said it?
Yeah, Ronald Reagan really blew it with "trust but verify" and this treaty. What a freakin' waste he - and Bush I, and Bush II - were to pursue this regarding nuclear containment. It was all useless.
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The quotes are immaterial to the issue. The "story" was taken from a radical website and completely oversensationalized.
Yes on the whole the treaties are window dressing. It isnt that disimilar from the gun amnesty programs offered in big cities with high crime rates. Sure it doesnt hurt but you dont really think that if US or Russia has 10000 nukes instead of 30000 we are a whole lot safer?