Musket Man back?

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Yeah, it was certainly not a remarkable race given it was the high point of Warrior's Reward's season post-Carter and Musket Man and Atta Boy Roy combined to go 1-7 the rest of the way.

Musket Man is not a superstar, but no one has ever made him out to be one. I think he has a decent shot in the Cigar Mile and would hope that if they say they're going to keep him to one turn races next year they actually stick to that plan.

I agree that Musket Man is not a superstar, but I've always respected him a lot. As a son of Yonaguska who came through Tampa and Hawthorne, I always thought his over-achieving Triple Crown efforts last year got lost in the Mine That Bird/ Rachel hoopla.

I also agree that it would be nice to see them stick to the one-turn plan next year. (Look what that did for Big Drama this year.) Not sure what to make of Saturday's race, as I'm leery of these post-Breeders' Cup entrants. The up-and-coming three year-olds, Friend or Foe and Noble's Promise, are interesting in this spot.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I agree that Musket Man is not a superstar, but I've always respected him a lot. As a son of Yonaguska who came through Tampa and Hawthorne, I always thought his over-achieving Triple Crown efforts last year got lost in the Mine That Bird/ Rachel hoopla.

I also agree that it would be nice to see them stick to the one-turn plan next year. (Look what that did for Big Drama this year.) Not sure what to make of Saturday's race, as I'm leery of these post-Breeders' Cup entrants. The up-and-coming three year-olds, Friend or Foe and Noble's Promise, are interesting in this spot.

Yonaguska is not a horrible stud, he can get you a real racehorse maybe not a ton of Graded winners but an earner

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Yonaguska is not a horrible stud, he can get you a real racehorse maybe not a ton of Graded winners but an earner

Not awful, but it was certainly a surprise to see a son of his competing well in races at a classic distance.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Not awful, but it was certainly a surprise to see a son of his competing well in races at a classic distance.

It's kind of interesting, because Yonaguska had a pedigree to be good at middle distances. As far as I remember, he only started twice in route races, getting third in the Champagne and running unplaced in the BC Juvenile. He retired after his 3yo season.

Certainly his sire, Cherokee Run, has been a good source of route horses. Seems like every year he has some sort of Derby prospect (eg Chelokee, Zanjero, War Pass, Kafwain, and now Industry Leader in CA). That's sort of surprising, too, because he made his mark as a sprinter.

But then you remember that he was a neck away from being a Preakness winner.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Yonaguska is not a horrible stud, he can get you a real racehorse maybe not a ton of Graded winners but an earner

He stands in LA for 4k. He aint AP Indy.

[Cannon Shell]

Musket Man has been handled in a curious fashion pretty much his entire career.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He stands in LA for 4k. He aint AP Indy.

Sent to TURKEY in 2010

Look up his progeny a tremendous percentage made it to the races and earned

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Sent to TURKEY in 2010

Look up his progeny a tremendous percentage made it to the races and earned

They didnt earn much

http://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock...orse_id=534976

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They didnt earn much

http://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock...orse_id=534976

http://www.pedigreequery.com

Type in Yon...and see his kids they all earned..this racing post is Kaka

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

http://www.pedigreequery.com

Type in Yon...and see his kids they all earned..this racing post is Kaka

If the criteria is regional stallions standing for less than 5k, then yes he is solid. Other than that he is a pretty weak stallion.