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Old 11-22-2010, 04:31 PM
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Then we agree like Israel we should profile and single out muslim names for extra security/scrutiny?

BTW My point of using the King of Saudi Arabia had nothing to do with the fact he's muslim (other than he may be traveling with one or more wives and a belief that no one shall touch any of them in his presence) and everything to do with the man having limitless resources and the ability to choose any country in the world for treatment. With the muslim sensitivity filter on extra high you are unable to see that.
I don't know whether to lob your gratuitious , "ignorant biatch" comment back at you (your tendency to lob flaming bags of dog shiat at people you disagree with doesn't garner you any respect for your debate skills), or just point out that no, you - once again - mischaracterized or misunderstood what I said. Go back and read it again. I added a little something about "profile terrorists" (which I am in favor of, as El Al does) vs "profile Muslims/Arabs" (which would have missed the shoe bomber, thus I am not)

And yes, I know your point about the Saudi king wasn't about him being Muslim. That's the "irony of being you" part <g>
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:33 AM
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Go back and read it again. I added a little something about "profile terrorists" (which I am in favor of, as El Al does) vs "profile Muslims/Arabs" (which would have missed the shoe bomber, thus I am not) <g>
Does Israel have some secret list that contain terrorist Arabic names as opposed to regular Arabic names? If you go back a re-read what I cited Israel profiles based on ethnicity first (arabic names) and then interogation second. We would do well to follow the same and stop patting down 5 yr. old boys.
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If every woman showed up in a string bikini and flip flops and every man in a SPEEDO and flip flops, I bed those pat downs would go lickety split.

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Old 11-23-2010, 07:11 PM
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Does Israel have some secret list that contain terrorist Arabic names as opposed to regular Arabic names? If you go back a re-read what I cited Israel profiles based on ethnicity first (arabic names) and then interogation second. We would do well to follow the same and stop patting down 5 yr. old boys.
Your reading understanding is truely unique. Re-read the rest of that American newspaper article. (probably better for you to to go off and find one of the recent interviews on American TV with ex-El Al security people). Yes, of course they use profiling, but it's much more than only names, or specifically names. You do realize I would guess (as does El Al) that if you profile based only on names, all terrorists have to do is ... use an alias. It's the sophistication of their questioning that is most important.

Yes, Dell, I am all in favor of profiling terrorists. There isn't much point to profiling "Muslims"
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:41 PM
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Your reading understanding is truely unique. Re-read the rest of that American newspaper article. (probably better for you to to go off and find one of the recent interviews on American TV with ex-El Al security people). Yes, of course they use profiling, but it's much more than only names, or specifically names. You do realize I would guess (as does El Al) that if you profile based only on names, all terrorists have to do is ... use an alias. It's the sophistication of their questioning that is most important.

Yes, Dell, I am all in favor of profiling terrorists. There isn't much point to profiling "Muslims"
read again and FOCUS....."and extremely high-risk travelers (anyone with an Arabic name). "

OK I should have used ALL who have arabic names as opposed to Muslims. Cause Muhamad Al Kalim the Christian should be included as well. So let's leave the word MUSLIM off the table and instead insert ARABIC. I'm good with that. Barack Obama could be one of those names LOL
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read again and FOCUS....."and extremely high-risk travelers (anyone with an Arabic name). "

OK I should have used ALL who have arabic names as opposed to Muslims. Cause Muhamad Al Kalim the Christian should be included as well. So let's leave the word MUSLIM off the table and instead insert ARABIC. I'm good with that. Barack Obama could be one of those names LOL
Who do you think is going to be targeted by security right now? Some guy out of Saudi, or Yemen?
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Who do you think is going to be targeted by security right now? Some guy out of Saudi, or Yemen?
apparantly 5 yr old white boys, nuns and guys who want their junk left alone. In another words by lottery. TSA needs to be privately run and we'd be 100X better tommorow.

Of course I realize I'm trying to explain this to a woman who still supports the USPO. ie. a kitchen table
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apparantly 5 yr old white boys, nuns and guys who want their junk left alone. In another words by lottery. TSA needs to be privately run and we'd be 100X better tommorow.

Of course I realize I'm trying to explain this to a woman who still supports the USPO. ie. a kitchen table
Nobody mentioned white children and nuns. Are you simply incapable of talking about national security concerns in any context or depth other than, "I hate me some Muslims!"?
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