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[Dahoss]

I've watched the head on three times now. There should have been an inquiry, I agree with that. But the horse was never impeded IMO. Looked like race riding to me. Maybe if there was some grandstanding they would have looked at it, but to my eyes there was nothing worthy of a takedown.

But, as bettors do we really want horses taken down because of grandstanding? I know I don't.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I've watched the head on three times now. There should have been an inquiry, I agree with that. But the horse was never impeded IMO. Looked like race riding to me. Maybe if there was some grandstanding they would have looked at it, but to my eyes there was nothing worthy of a takedown.

But, as bettors do we really want horses taken down because of grandstanding? I know I don't.

I'd be all for euthanasia for said jocks.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'd be all for euthanasia for said jocks.

LOL but hey, a win is a win is a win, if it takes some embellishment why not? Might not be right but if I knew I had three blind mice watching I'd be trying that stuff in a situation like that. The bug isn't on that level yet, and yes he got race rode. Live and Learn.

[blackthroatedwind]

If the rider of the second horse had checked, whether fake or real, the horse would have blown second, and thus even with a DQ, the horse would have ended up in the same position.

I bet the second finisher.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If the rider of the second horse had checked, whether fake or real, the horse would have blown second, and thus even with a DQ, the horse would have ended up in the same position.

I bet the second finisher.

Your probably right, the real move was to get outside before Cornelio could put the lockdown on him. But I listen to the wonderful trips and traps, and I think this more applies to a bug rider focusing too much on saving ground .

PS. Grandstanding is cool and if it wins you a race, your the better rider. (sarcastic posters...bring it on).

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

PS. Grandstanding is cool and if it wins you a race, your the better rider. (sarcastic posters...bring it on).

Smoothie got the dart, so that won't be happening.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

Your probably right, the real move was to get outside before Cornelio could put the lockdown on him. But I listen to the wonderful trips and traps, and I think this more applies to a bug rider focusing too much on saving ground .

PS. Grandstanding is cool and if it wins you a race, your the better rider. (sarcastic posters...bring it on).

We do know that bug riders, and especially the one in this case, marry themselves to the rail, seemingly sometimes for better or worse. We also know why this is. In general, people who ride bug riders put a lot of credence in weight ( you can't fool me ), which means there is also a non-coincidental likelihood that they use the sheets, thus ground loss is also very important to them. Riding bug riders and demanding they stay inside goes hand in hand.

First they gave us the bounce....now they give us this.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

We do know that bug riders, and especially the one in this case, marry themselves to the rail, seemingly sometimes for better or worse. We also know why this is. In general, people who ride bug riders put a lot of credence in weight ( you can't fool me ), which means there is also a non-coincidental likelihood that they use the sheets, thus ground loss is also very important to them. Riding bug riders and demanding they stay inside goes hand in hand.

First they gave us the bounce....now they give us this.

So the inside isn't the fastest way around?

[The Bid]

What really angers me about that particular race is that Prado knows exactly what hes donig. Hes perfectly aware 6 is coming up the middle so he puts the 9 horse in his path. After taking that path, he switches sticks and comes back down a second time tightening up the rail. So essentially in a 16th of a mile he takes a horses clear run away twice. While I generally don't like to see horses taken down, I think at the very least an inquiry should have been lit. If these guys don't see a reason for that stretch to be looked at they clearly aren't doing their job. I think you can make a fair case for a DQ w/ no contact in this situation.

As a bettor I want these stewards to do their job. We put our money through the window the least we deserve is a fairly run race, and a review when called for

Grandstanding though I dislike it very much