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Old 11-16-2010, 07:51 PM
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Looking at the 70's the best I could - I have to think for sure he's the top rated horse since 1970.

He had that sprinter/miler pedigree and was basically a machine between the distances of 7 furlongs to 10 furlongs.




A perfect 24-for-24 record at 15 different tracks - 23 of the 24 wins coming by 1.5 lengths or more. 14 Grade 1 wins - a slew of track records set - a great champion at ages 2, 3, and 4 who ran in all regions.

Certainly faced a lot of quality competition in all regions. A consistantly great speed figure horse as well. He was faster than Affirmed and Seattle Slew on Ragozin at both 3yo seasons VS 3yo seasons and 4yo seasons VS 4yo seasons. Secretariat was faster than the Bid in his three triple crown wins vs Bid's 3 triple crown races .. but overall .. he was as fast and a lot more consistant than "Big Red" at age 3 .. and unlike Secretariat - he actually came back for a 4-year-old season - improved and dominated.

As we all know - that type of progression from age 3 to age 4 doesn't always happen.
Incredible, thanks for posting. It's a very close determination between him and Sec for best of all time to me. Really depends on how you weigh the TC win versus a 4yo season.

I'd love to know who was favored over him in the Champagne off that ridiculous Atlantic City win.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:02 PM
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Incredible, thanks for posting. It's a very close determination between him and Sec for best of all time to me. Really depends on how you weigh the TC win versus a 4yo season.

I'd love to know who was favored over him in the Champagne off that ridiculous Atlantic City win.
That's funny.....I hadn't gotten to your post when I wrote mine. General Assembly was pretty strong at that point....I imagine he was favored ( though for some reason I feel like he might have been coming off a close loss to Tim the Tiger probably in the Cowden ).

Once again....these horses all ran before horses bounced.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:59 AM
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That's funny.....I hadn't gotten to your post when I wrote mine. General Assembly was pretty strong at that point....I imagine he was favored ( though for some reason I feel like he might have been coming off a close loss to Tim the Tiger probably in the Cowden ).

Once again....these horses all ran before horses bounced.
Until my first trip to the Spa for A & A's Travers, I had little interest in racing. I loved Saratoga so much I returned the next weekend for the Hopeful. General Assembly won. I think Tim was second and Fuzzbuster third. BTW, you are right about the Cowdin. GA went off at 1/10. With my one month of experience in horse racing, I bet $100 to win on GA. I credit him with teaching me an early lesson about horses that pay a dime on the dollar. They DO lose. In the Champagne, I think GA was 1/2 to Bid's 2.40/1.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:15 AM
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Incredible, thanks for posting. It's a very close determination between him and Sec for best of all time to me. Really depends on how you weigh the TC win versus a 4yo season.

I'd love to know who was favored over him in the Champagne off that ridiculous Atlantic City win.
I believe the favorite was Genral Assembly with Tim The Tiger second choice
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:43 AM
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Smarten was a very underrated race horse, and turned out to be a pretty fantastic sire.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:42 PM
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I believe the favorite was Genral Assembly with Tim The Tiger second choice
And if I'm not mistaken, Cordero replace Darrel McHargue on General Assembly.
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